Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2003 09:26:32 -0700
Reply-To: "Vernon, Russell" <Russell.Vernon**At_Symbol_Here**EHS.UCR.EDU>
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From: "Vernon, Russell" <Russell.Vernon**At_Symbol_Here**EHS.UCR.EDU>
Subject: CHP and undergraduate teaching labs
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"Kevin.Kaboli**At_Symbol_Here**EHS.UCSB.EDU" ,
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Dear Dave,

I see from your query through Kevin to the UCIH listserv you are interested
in the legal and moral ramifications of requiring a Chemical Hygiene Plan
for the undergraduate teaching labs.  Here are my 2 cents...

Legal - the 'Employer' is required to have a chemical hygiene plan for the
Instructor and Teaching Assistants

Moral - the University should be required to TEACH safety as well as how a
reaction works.  This includes an understanding of the concept and practice
of 'Chemical Hygiene'

I do not believe that most lab manuals would fulfill the legal need for a
CHP for the Instructors and TA's.  However a well written lab manual might
fulfill the moral obligations for teaching the students safety...


Russell Vernon, Ph.D.
Laboratory / Research Safety Specialist
Environmental Health & Safety
University of California, Riverside
900 University Ave.
Riverside, CA 92521


Direct: (909) 787-5119
Admin: (909) 787-5528
Fax: (909) 787-5122

-----Original Message-----
UC IHers: if you've got a few minutes, I have 2 questions about your campus
Chemical Hygiene Plan program.   Thanks for your help.

1. Although undergraduates in teaching labs are not employees, do you
believe that undergrad lab courses should (legally or morally) have a
Chemical Hygiene Plan?

2.  If yes to #1, would you generally consider the lab manual for a given
course - with their typical chemical safety information - to be an adequate
CHP? (i.e., in lieu of template forms that are typically used for research
lab CHPs).

David Vandenberg

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