Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2003 07:25:47 -0400
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Subject: Re: Laboratory eye protection

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:20:15 -0400
From: "Donna Majewski" 
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Laboratory eye protection, 2 responses

Just an FYI: ANSI Std Z87.1-89 is incorporated by reference into OSHA
[see 29 CFR 1910.6(e)(68)] as was the 1968 version.  Both are
referenced in the 1910.133 Eye and Face protection std. so the 2003
version may soon follow suit.

Donna Majewski
Safety Manager
Great Lakes Chemical Corporation

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:22:04 -0400
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Laboratory eye protection, 2 responses
From: richard rydza 

>  >  OSHA has implemented a new PPE
>  >  eye protection standard for high and low impact safety eyewear
>  effective
>  >  August 2003. be sure your purchases comply with that new
>  standard.
>  I don't think OSHA had anything to do with it.  That new standard
>  addressing
>  high and low impact eyewear is the new ANSI/ASSE Z87.1, not an OSHA
>  standard.  It is a useful thing but a consensus standard is not the
>  same as
>  an OSHA Standard.  The two things should not be confused..

The responder here is only partially correct. Although it may be an
ANSI standard, a true statement, and I stand corrected for not
mentioning that, it is a standard that is adopted by OSHA. So now it
becomes part of an OSHA standard, CFR1910.133.

Let us not get confused here even more, ANSI doesn't hand out
citations, OSHA will be handing out the citations. So if you think
OSHA has nothing to do with enforcement, then you are being ill
advised. Be careful when some says OSHA has nothing to do with it.
ANSI actually reviewed the old standard at the request of OSHA and
NIOSH, propelled by the business community who asked OSHA and NIOSH
for review of the standard. Basis for the review and modification of
the standard was concern about cost, and weight of eyewear from major
US business Leaders. Be sure you comply with the OSHA standard
1910.133, they are the ones who will write the citation. Also I am
concerned that a CIH would make a statement saying that OSHA has
nothing to do with a workplace safety standard.

Richard Rydza, mrsafetyman
19 Wintergreen Place
Lackawanna, NY 14218
716-826-1747 phone / fax
Safety is Good Business

From: ACTSNYC**At_Symbol_Here**
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 12:45:15 EDT
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Laboratory eye protection, 2 responses

I agree, the OSHA and ANSI standards are different.  And in the case
of the ANSI Z87.1 standard, OSHA references the 1989 version at
1910.133(b)(1) for any equipment purchased after 1994.  So although I
recommend that people adopt the most recent ANSI standards,
technically, OSHA couldn't cite for anything in a new standard
unless, for some strange reason, failure to do so could be covered
under the General Duty Clause.  Not likely.

Monona Rossol

Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 09:32:32 -0400
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Laboratory eye protection, 3 more responses
From: richard rydza 

The Business community asked NIOSH and OSHA for a review of the eye
protection standard for reasons of cost, weight and usefulness in the
workplace. The issue was similar to yours, that is, why do we have to
wear heavier high impact safety glasses in light / low impact

Lab work, where there is no potential for a high impact injury in
most cases, and where hazards from splashing chemicals are not
present, I would recommend low impact eyewear or eye glasses. Most
are lighter, less bulky, and are supposed to be more cost effective.
Remember, those who wear prescription lenses, if they are not marked
with the new + sign for high impact, they are no longer considered a
high impact lens. They no longer meet the requirements of the OSHA
standard 1910.133 which adopted the new ANSI standard Z87., effective
August 2003.

Richard Rydza, mrsafetyman
19 Wintergreen Place
Lackawanna, NY 14218
716-826-1747 phone / fax
Safety is Good Business

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