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From: "Foesier, Jeremy" 
Date: February 1, 2010 12:17:18 PM EST
Subject: RE: [DCHAS-L] Creative Idea 2

I can put in my two cents for this one as well.

Not sure if this helps, but two competing sound devices in one room is 
likely something folks can relate to.  For example one of my kids was 
watching TV and felt I was speaking to loud on the phone (noise to my 
kid) therefore they had to increase the signal (volume of the TV to 

you can extend this analogy to listening to an ipod (signal) on a noisy 
bus or train (background noise). 

Jeremy  C. Foesier :-)
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From: Vaiju.Bagal**At_Symbol_Here**
Date: February 1, 2010 9:52:58 AM EST
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Creative Idea 2

>Who would be interested in having like a weekly activity where we do 
this to a scientific "thing"?

It was fun just reading the ideas. I'm game. 

Ujjvala (Vaiju) Bagal
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From: Alan Hall 
Date: February 1, 2010 11:20:32 AM EST
Subject: RE: [DCHAS-L] Creative Idea 2

About "Dead Skunk in the Middle of the Road", I stand corrected as to 
the composer.  (Just for example, if I recall correctly, John Denver did 
compose "Leaving on a Jet Plane" and yet probably the most famous 
recording of it was by Peter, Paul, and Mary.)  I do remember a 
recording by John Denver and hearing him play it live at a concert in El 
Paso umpteen years ago.  And yes, for my sins, when I used to be a 
professional SSWG (singer songwriter with guitar) I have performed it 
only on request -- surprising how many people actually do like it, no 
accounting for taste.  It is even mentioned in Ed Abbey's book, "The 
Monkey Wrench Gang".  Or to paraphrase, "I know a lot about music but I 
don't know what I like".
And another thought for the musically-minded, based on the physics of a 
vibrating string (or an air colume for brass or wind instruments), when 
you half the length, you raise the pitch by an octave, and 
proportionally with other shortening.  Or if you increase the length to 
twice the original, you decrease the pitch by an octave, and 
proportionally for lengthening.  The entire overtone series (the other 
not played directly but heard by the ear notes) stays the same in the 
different octaves, but the intensity of sound of each of them may be 
decreased or augmented depending on the circumstances.  The empahsis or 
not of various notes in the overtone series determines the "timbor" of 
an individual instrument, which is why your average student violin 
doesn't sound exactly like a Stradivarious, even when the same musician 
plays the same note on each.
And I do like the analogy to trying to simmer a succulent sauce in a 
small pan over a large gas stove burner.  Even some of us of the male 
persusasion enjoy cooking good things.  I find it a great 
stress-reliever (unless you let the flame get too high and scorch the 
sauce and must then discard it and start over -- my old gas range has a 
mind of its own and raises the flame without anyone touching the dial, 
and so requires constant attention).    
Alan H. Hall, M.D.

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