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Subject: 10 RE: [DCHAS-L] Lab Coat Options

From: "Kohler, Chris E" <cekohler**At_Symbol_Here**>
Date: February 16, 2010 3:39:39 PM EST
Subject: RE: [DCHAS-L] Lab Coat Options

Definitely depends on the hazards. Disposable tyvek may be cooler if it can be safely used.
From: jchem56**At_Symbol_Here**
Date: February 16, 2010 3:44:28 PM EST
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Lab Coat Options

Laboratory coats are part of the PPE for the laboratory. Lab coats can be bought in various thickness of fabrics.

Jim Julion
Lab Supervisor
Chicago Water Mgmt Dept
312 747-7891
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From: Andrew Gross <gross.drew**At_Symbol_Here**>
Date: February 16, 2010 3:51:46 PM EST
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Lab Coat Options

I know one....ME!!!!  I just plain don't like lab coats  However not
wanting to be "that guy", I came up with my own solution.  In a past
life I was a tow truck driver and have lots of clothing that is almost
as protective.  Being I don't care about these clothes, I wear them in
place of my lab coat.  Of course in any situation that I am knowingly
working with anything where the difference between the outfits would
be noticed I put on my lab coat.

There are people out there who don't like them.  I find many of them
have the same general dislikes, comfort, mobility, heat etc.  Try to
work a compromise.  Besides looking like a bum all the time, my
solution has worked out just fine.


From: "Mary Cavanaugh" <cavanaughmm**At_Symbol_Here**>< /div>
Date: February 16, 2010 3:50:24 PM EST
Subject: RE: [DCHAS-L] Lab Coat Options

Depends on the nature of the hazards, but you might be able to consider:
-          Sleeve protectors plus an apron (if skin contact is not a significant hazard)
-          Allowing him to wear just a lightweight undershirt under the lab coat
-          Asking your supplier for any extra-breathable fabric options (that are suitable for the chemicals in use)
-          Lowering the temp in his area &/or adding a small area fan (if it wouldn=92t interfere with hood performance)

From: Alice Yu <alice.yu**At_Symbol_Here**>
Date: February 16, 2010 3:56:30 PM EST
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Lab Coat Options

Hi Danielle,

We had some luck with the light weight dacron versions of the lab coat.


Alice O. Yu, MS, CPE| Sr. EH&S Assoc. | Amgen SF |( office: 650.244.2690| ( mobile: 650.333.5397| *  ayu**At_Symbol_Here**|

From: DanielD734**At_Symbol_Here**
Date: February 16, 2010 4:00:56 PM EST
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Lab Coat Options

What type of clothing does this person normally wear? May be if he wore lighter clothing under the lab coat he would feel better.
From: Mubetcel <mubetcel_moorefield**At_Symbol_Here**STERIS. COM>
Date: February 16, 2010 3:59:48 PM EST
Subject: Re: Lab Coat Options

First, I would like to state that I agree with Brad.

Second, giving the benefit of the doubt to the employee in question, I would 
suggest he/she checks his/her blood pressure for possibly being too high.  
Since everybody else is OK with the conditions of the lab, this employee may 
have a health problem he needs to address.  Also, while he is doing so, he 
should not be allowed in the lab unless he can handle wearing the lab coat 
during that visit.

Third, I have a question:  Where has  this person been prior to accepting 
employment at your facility?  Even if this is his/her first employment, surely 
he/she got some training that required wearing a lab coat.  How was that 

From: "Foesier, Jeremy" <Foesier.Jeremy**At_Symbol_Here**>
Date: February 16, 2010 4:12:33 PM EST
Subject: RE: [DCHAS-L] Lab Coat Options

Hi Danielle,
I partly agree with what Dr. Norwood is saying below.  As much as it is a condition of employment, lab coats are also an engineering control to prevent injuries.  If you cannot design a safe work environment without lab coats then they must be worn (this is the same for any PPE, eyewear, gloves, etc.).  I don't think you want the liability if the fellow was not wearing a lab coat and it was written in your procedures and he did get injured.  Lawyers love to grab procedures and try to make companies look bad for not training people properly or something like that.
Maybe this fellow needs to be allowed to dress down under the lab coat, maybe wear a T-shirt, is there a dress code at your workplace that could be relaxed in order to allow this fellow to continue to safely wear a lab coat?

Jeremy  C. Foesier J 
Main Operations Lab 
Syncrude Canada Ltd. 
Ph. 780-790-8217 
Fax  780-790-4850 
P Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail or its attachment

From: Ken Simolo <simolo**At_Symbol_Here**chem.chem.rochester. edu>
Date: February 16, 2010 4:09:19 PM EST
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Lab Coat Options

Can you lower the temperature in the area he works?  It is actually a way to encourage the wearing of lab coats.


From: "Mary Cavanaugh" <cavanaughmm**At_Symbol_Here**>< /div>
Date: February 16, 2010 3:52:53 PM EST
Subject: RE: [DCHAS-L] Lab Coat Options

PS, my previous suggestions were working from the assumption that he has a viable medical concern.  For example if he has high blood pressure or a sweat gland disorder, he could in fact have a problem with getting too hot.
If he=92s just being a pain, well=85.maybe he needs to be reminded that there are a lot of unemployed people out there who don=92t mind a little sweat.

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