From: "Bradley, Shelly"
Date: November 10, 2010 2:10:40 PM EST Subject: RE: [DCHAS-L] flammable cabinet question Excellent information Rob, please send me the information when you get it. Thanks so much, Shelly Shelly Bradley=E2=80=A8Instrumentation Specialist=E2=80=A8Laboratory Development Assistant=E2=80=A8 Campus Chemical Compliance Director=E2=80=A8 Chemistry Department =E2=80=A8Hendrix College=E2=80=A8Conway, AR 72032=E2=80=A8(501) 450-3812=E2=80=A8bradley**At_Symbol_Here**hendrix.edu === From: "Norwood, Brad" Date: November 10, 2010 2:01:19 PM EST Subject: RE: [DCHAS-L] flammable cabinet question With all due respect, that=E2=80=99s bullcrap, and on several fronts. 1) We have a flammables cabinet with self-closing doors manufactured by Eagle. Neither door can be held open by the manufacturer-provided fusible link, because on the left door, the hook slips off of the door. On the right, the chain doesn=E2=80=99t even reach. 2) To charge $185 dollars for two 6=" chains with a hook from Ace Hardware and a fusible link inserted in it is ludicrous. 3) As a testing lab highly oriented to the regulatory environment, I recognize the severe conflict of interest inherent in your claim that every state that requires self-closing flammable cabinet doors should also require the hooks and fusible links to hold them open. Once again, the main lesson here is that increased regulation is not always the best response to complex issues. In this case, I suspect a knee-jerk response to a fire that got worse because a flammable cabinet door was left open. Someone said "We ought to make it so that the door can=E2=80=99t be left open.=" That got implemented. Then the Law of Unintended Consequences kicked in, and someone started recognizing a significant increase in spills of flammable solvents because self-closing doors started whacking people in the midst or removing or restoring bottles to the cabinet. That necessitated yet another =E2=80=98one size fits all=E2=80=99 response of a fusible link chain to hold the door open (no guarantee that there wasn=E2=80=99t a iteration in the middle there that omitted the fusible link=E2=80=A6) Does it sound like I=E2=80=99m cynical? Yes. I simply do not like it when The Government dictates minutiae (like dictating that incandescent lights will no longer be produced and instead everyone must use CFLs. Idiotic, and it won=E2=80=99t save the planet, it will pollute it even worse. Stupid regulation). Brad Dr. Bradley K. Norwood Laboratory Director Arista Laboratories 1941 Reymet Road Richmond, VA 23237 (804) 271-5572 ext. 307 (804) 641-4641 (cell) brad.norwood**At_Symbol_Here**aristalabs.com === From: "Jean & Ken Smith" Date: November 11, 2010 3:19:54 AM EST Subject: RE: [DCHAS-L] flammable cabinet question I am not sure that ignoring some laws is the correct way to do things. Cal/OSHA and the State Fire Marshall do require the self closing doors in California. Fed OSHA may also require it. In the string of responses there were stated ways to use them safely. There are cabinets with the fusible links that can be propped open to move the bottles/containers safely. The fusible links were added a few years ago to protect the contents from fire by having the links melt and automatically shut the doors that were inadvertently or purposefully left open. I worked for Cal/OSHA for many years and this problem would be a magnet for citations. In general, I found that universities were very prone to have multiple problems =E2=80=93 some very serious =E2=80=93 during my inspections and subsequently received many citations. Many private labs had similar situations that had to be fixed, but the majority was quite good. Retired Chemist and CIH KEN
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