Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:50:19 -0400
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Subject: Re: Pull-Down Eyewash Units
Comments: cc: Margaret Rakas
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Disclaimer: My company, Safety Emporium, is a Guardian Equipment  

The GBF 1849 units are extremely easy to use and they save  
considerable floor/bench space by utilizing existing sinks.   This  
also reduces issues of having people obstruct the eyewash bowl with  
coffee grounds, chewing tobacco etc.  Of course, one still has to be  
vigilant to ensure that the space around the unit (and floor in front)  

is kept clear.  This is best accomplished with antislip floor signs/ 
markers and tape - contact me off list if you are interested in the  
products that we recommend for those purposes.

The GBF 1849 will be ADA compliant provided that a) the counter top is  

a max of 34=92=92 above the floor and b) 27=92=92 knee clearance is 
for users in a wheel chair.  This is noted in small print on the  
product brochure which you can view at

Tempered water is an absolute must in Massachusetts; I know from  
personal experience how cold emergency water can be in the winter  
without a tempering unit!

James' comments about installation are on the mark.  I can't speak to  

what happens at the installation point, but Guardian ships these units  

fully assembled and every unit is tested before leaving the factory  
(all Guardian products are made 100% in the USA; imagine that!).    
Given that these are fully assembled it's fairly hard to screw up the  

installation, and any problems with the installation would be  
immediately obvious given the simple mode of operation.  In the years  

that we've been Guardian products we have never had a customer report  

an installation issue of any sort.

Ken mentioned the WaterSaver EW1022.  WaterSaver and Guardian are two  

halves of the same company.  The EW1022 is the Guardian G5022: 
    They are great for drench purposes, yes, and they are also less  
expensive.  The list price on the GBF 1849 in any of the six mounting  

configurations is $576.57 USD and the G5022 list price is $338.84.   
However, the G5022 is not billed as being ADA compliant.

Best regards,
Rob Toreki

Safety Emporium - Lab & Safety Supplies featuring brand names
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On Apr 27, 2011, at 1:54 PM, Margaret Rakas wrote:

> Good afternoon--
> We are performing renovations, and the project engineers, citing  
> cost savings, have made the suggestion to install pull-down eyewash  

> stations which are ANSI compliant (what they have suggested is a  
> Guardian GBF 1849 unit that would be sink-mounted and appropriate  
> for both handicapped and other users; tempered water would be piped  

> to the eyewash).
> If you have experience with pull-down units similar to this and  
> would like to share good/bad/indifferent thoughts on their use in  
> training students, maintenance, and operation, I would welcome your  

> comments--my only experience has been with the 'paddle'-type eyewash  

> units which have their own basin and are generally plumbed to the  
> sanitary line.  Please feel free to contact me off-line if you would  

> prefer...I would also be willing to share responses (scrubbed of any  

> identifying info) if you would be willing.
> Lastly, if you have labs with these units and your institution is  
> located in Connecticut, Massachusetts, or southern Vermont and would  

> be able to spend 20 minutes showing me them in actual operation, I  
> would be most grateful!
> Many thanks to a group with awesome knowledge and experience!
> Margaret
> Margaret A. Rakas, Ph.D.
> Manager, Inventory & Regulatory Affairs
> Clark Science Center
> Smith College
> Northampton, MA. 01063
> p:  413-585-3877
> f:   413-585-3786

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