From: Christina Dillard <cdillard**At_Symbol_Here**MOS.ORG>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Beacon HS student burned in botched chemistry experiment awarded nearly $60M
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 16:54:40 +0000
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Monona,

I completely agree, NO ONE should graduate without knowing the physical principles related to fire… OSHA and so on! It should be a serious course!

 

I still think we also need to change the culture and make safety and important and integral part of all science education. We need to get the message out to those that are already in their positions and help them recognize their hazards and take proper precautions.

 

Best,

Christina

 

 

 

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU> On Behalf Of Monona Rossol
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 12:27 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Beacon HS student burned in botched chemistry experiment awarded nearly $60M

 

Safety should not be in the hands of individual teachers, however wonderful some of them may be, to incorporate into lessons bit by bit as their individual experience and temperament dictate.  

 

Safety is a profession and a discipline all by its damn self.  There needs to be a required course in which all of the basic principles and regulatory issues are taught.  No one should graduate without knowing the physical principles related to fire, explosion, basic toxicology, how to read an SDS and a proper label, the applicable OSHA regulations, and so on. 

 

And no 1 credit survey course either.  It needs to be tough, organized, detailed, and specific to the hazards and equipment used in the type of chemistry the student is pursuing.

 

Monona

 

 

 

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From: Christina Dillard <cdillard**At_Symbol_Here**MOS.ORG>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Sent: Tue, Jul 2, 2019 11:50 am
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Beacon HS student burned in botched chemistry experiment awarded nearly $60M

I'm not sure I can hang my hat on "hopeful". I was in the thick of trying to make change happen in my more than 13 years with the Laboratory Safety Institute (LSI). But there needs to be a culture shift in how we teach science. Safety has to be an integral part of all science education. I continue the good fight here at the Museum and most of our educators do a great job of infusing safety into their fun science lessons; I always tell them, you don't know who is in that audience… a teacher, an administrator, a future teacher or just a student that now has the confidence to speak up about the "cool" safety precautions that they saw and now ask why aren't we doing the same. We aren't perfect by a long shot, but I'm proud of our staff.

 

There are so many opportunities to infuse safety into our lessons and to encourage risk assessments at all academic levels. After all… Safety is Elementary! There has to be a way to get this message to a bigger broader audience and shift the culture of "Whoa! That was a close call" to "Wait! What are the precautions?"

I feel we need the help of the cool faces of science like Adam Savage, Steve Spangler, and Steve Nye to make safety a priority, to demonstrate and talk about the importance of safety. And I think someone here mentioned petitioning YouTube to take down old experiments that only reinforce the "wrong" way to use alcohols in demonstrations.

 

But I am not hopeful that this lawsuit will make a change. Until I figure out the "magic" to getting this message out I will talk to anyone who will listen about the pain Alonzo Yanes suffered, the bravery of Priest Rivera to be seen on the news in his bandages warning others about experiments involving the ignition of alcohol vapors and Calais Webber who still hasn't put the whole tragic moment behind her, but fights the good fight and talks about what happened to her.

 

Best,

Christina

 

Christina Dillard | Environmental Health & Safety (EHS) Program Manager

Museum of Science  | Facilities Dept.  |  One  Science Park  |  Boston, MA 02114-1099

P 617-589-4249 | F 617-589-0101 |M 781-789-1178| cdillard**At_Symbol_Here**mos.org  |  www.mos.org

 

 

 

 

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU> On Behalf Of Neil Edwards
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 10:13 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Beacon HS student burned in botched chemistry experiment awarded nearly $60M

 

Hopefully, this huge jury award and the publicity generated by it will finally bring a decent amount of nationwide publicity to this ongoing problem, maybe enough to make school boards sit up and take notice of what might happen if they don't properly train and supervise their science teachers.

 

Neil Edwards

Laboratory Manager

Adjunct Associate Professor
Department of Chemistry
LIU Post
Brookville, NY

 

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU> On Behalf Of Monona Rossol
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2019 5:28 PM
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Oh they got it right. Blaming the board of Education who should have provided the rules.  Once in a while the jury sorts through all the facts and figures it out. 

Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist President:  Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc. Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE 181 Thompson St., #23 New York, NY 10012     212-777-0062actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**cs.com    www.artscraftstheatersafety.org  


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