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Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 02:50:07 +0000
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Thanks.  I'll be using this a lot.   Monona


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https://statutes.capitol.texas.gov/Docs/HS/htm/HS.502.htm  
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On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 3:13 PM Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**lists.princeton.edu> wrote:
James,  Goody,  If you can show me where there is a state rule that says colleges and universities must comply with a some sort of Texas hazard communication and where I can get a copy of that program, I'll be thrilled to inform a couple of schools who tell me they don't have to do squat.   

Monona


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However,  Texas does have its own hazard communication standard.
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On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 2:43 PM Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**lists.princeton.edu> wrote:
Excellent work, Yaritza.  EPA rules all apply to schools in Texas.  But Texas state and municipal schools are exempt from the OSHA regulations.  So training about hazcom, SDS, etc., is up to individual schools, and some have chosen not to have any of the usual OSHA written programs.   It also sounds like the advice Pam got about storing in the hood means that the training of the facilities people is not working too well.  

Monona  


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Hi Pam,
 
Federal regulations do require waste containers to be kept closed when not pouring into them. This may be inconvenient, but does prevent "waste treatment by evaporation" which is prohibited by the EPA. However, "tightly closed" may be an issue for some experiments if the waste generates gas overnight and can cause an explosion (saw the aftermath as an undergrad). So, it is prudent to use secondary containers. Better yet, include a step in the experiment to reduce the hazard level of the "soon to be declared waste" (which is allowed) to eliminate the risk of over pressurizing the waste container.
 
I looked around your school's website a bit. Federal Regulations encourage the use of Integrated Contingency Plans (ICP). It appears your institution has chosen to also include the CHP, RSP, Bio Safety, and other plans into their ICP. Your institution has chosen to use a separate webpage for each section of their ICP and also for each section of the CHP. Thus, at first glance it looks like you don't have a CHP. However, when you start to look you do find the required sections. PLEASE NOTE that I'm not commenting on the quality of each section as I have really not read thru them.
 
Your generator status section is - http://www.lonestar.edu/16717.htm#responsibilities
This page has a summary, including who is responsible for training you- your Facilities Department- http://www.lonestar.edu/16749.htm
 
Interestingly enough, your institution's policy specifically says not to store waste in hoods. Judging by the wording, most of it looks almost verbatim from the regulations. Thus, I wonder if the don't store waste in hoods is an extension of the heuristic "don't store stuff in active hoods". I would gather the information already suggested by others to justify your current arrangement. I would also make the argument that hazardous wastes (i.e. acid, organic solvents) do pose a respiratory hazard. Therefore, it is common to denote a hood as the Satellite Containment Area.. Please do a bit of homework on Satellite Containment Areas as these are supposed to be denoted in your plan and are the responsibility of the "local" researcher/CHO/stock room manager.
 
In addition to the resources others have pointed out, I also suggest the following EPA resources available for download at https://www.epa.gov/nscep
Environmental Management Guide For Small Laboratories
EPA Enforcement Alert: Mismanagement of Laboratory Waste Creates Risk of Serious Injury
Management Of Hazardous Wastes From Educational Institutions Report To Congress (This is a critical review of bad practices found in the 80's. It is not explicit, but it does allude to storage of waste inside cabinets as a bad practice.)
 
Hope this helps!
 
Yaritza Brinker
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This is all I could find
 
Lone Star College was founded in 1973 and offers Associate Degrees, Workforce Certificates and Transfer Credits..
 
 
 
 
Guide Background This Chemical Hygiene Guide provides a set of guidelines designed to protect the health and safety of faculty, staff and students in LSCS laboratories.
 
 
Pamela Auburn, PhD
2041 Branard
Houston TX 77098
 

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Good James.  That's the first question and why I advised Pamela to get on her own schools website and look for information about safety programs.  It will be there.  Monona

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Pamela,
 
Do you work at a public or private institution?
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On Wed, Feb 12, 2020, 8:30 PM Pam Auburn <aubu**At_Symbol_Here**hotmail.com> wrote:
All
 
Can some one lead me to resources on how waste is collected and handled in teaching labs. There is some debate going on at my school. We do not have a chemical hygiene officer. Chemical waste falls under the Emergency Response Manager. She did not like our use of carboys with safety funnels, (labeled separated into aqueous, acid, organic and halogenated organic) in hoods and asked that we keep waste in closed containers in the cabinets beneath the hoods. I can see problems with this but do not know where to go for authoritative background.
 
Thanks
 
Pamela Auburn, PhD
2041 Branard
Houston TX 77098
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