From: Debbie Decker <debbie.m.decker**At_Symbol_Here**GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] iron pentacarbonyl
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2022 19:55:06 -0700
Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
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Coming from the explosives industry, "explosion proof" has a certain meaning for me.

I reviewed what you had sent, John, and it recommends explosion proof lighting and electrical. In a typical fume hood, the light fixture is sealed inside the cupboard and only accessible from the exterior of the fume hood. All electrical outlets are also outside of the fume cupboard - which is defeated when people put a power strip inside the hood. <ugh>

All that to say ... a modern, well-engineered fume hood, with all electrical power exterior to the fume cupboard should be safe for the use of carbonyls.

Thanks for the thought exercise.

Debbie

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022, 2:33 PM Jonathan Klane <jklane1**At_Symbol_Here**asu.edu> wrote:
I think that Debbie's question was about the meaning or definition intended by "explosion-proof hood".

Does it mean rated as class 1 division 1 as she suggests?

Or is it a less formal meaning that the hood structure won't give way, or will blow out vertically, or another similar meaning that isn't class 1, div 1.

Of course, I could be wrong. As I like to remind myself and others, "I've been wrong before, I'll be wrong again. I just happen to think I'm right this time." ;-)

I hope this helps.

All my best,
Jon

Jonathan Klane, M.S.Ed., CIH, CSP, CHMM, CIT
Senior Safety Editor, Lab Manager Magazine

PhD candidate, Human + Social Dimensions of Science + Technology
College of Global Futures
School for the Future of Innovation in Society


On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 2:11 PM John Callen <jbcallen**At_Symbol_Here**gmail.com> wrote:
Debbie,

My comment was based from the reactivity of iron pentacarbonyl as a flammable liquid, etc.

Please look at the warnings, especially "Prevention" in the attached link.

When I was in graduate research, I always took a very cautious and measured approach when I was working with or around others who were working with boranes, carbonyls and other pyrophorics, explosive & shock sensitive, etc. chemicals. That why I stated the use of an explosion-proof laboratory hood.

All My Best,

John


On Aug 3, 2022, at 15:01, Debbie Decker <debbie.m.decker**At_Symbol_Here**gmail.com> wrote:

John Callen writes "...the meantime, Iron pentacarbonyl, as you know, is nasty stuff and should be used with extreme caution in an explosion-proof laboratory hood."

I'm wondering what you meant by the phrase "explosion-proof laboratory hood." This brings to mind for me Class 1, Division 1 electrical utilities to the hood, installed in a space with a similarly protected electrical system.

Is that your intent?

Debbie

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