Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 12:02:20 -0700
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Subject: Re: Need Your Opinion on Safety Issues
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In response to Jay's statement "as far as OSHA is concerned, the kiddies
may wear whatever they like."

Jay is correct specifically to OSHA and the non-workforce.

However, it is in the prerogative of ANY business, organization, or
school to make enforceable rules for those who will be interacting with

That is...a business (such as a white-water rafting company) may make it
a requirement that all customers MUST wear helmets or they will not have
them as customers.  

An organization (such as a hiking group) may make it a requirement that
ALL participants must have training in outdoor safety BEFORE they can go
on a hike or else they will not be allowed to go.  

A school may make it a requirement that students follow "X" rules (even
taking word for word from an OSHA requirement) or they will not be
allowed to sign up or take a class.

Yes, OSHA regulations only apply to the workforce (I don't know for
certain that OSHA applies to PAID workforce only...I haven't been fully
up on my OSHA regulations recently but I think if the person is WORKING
for the entity...whether paid or otherwise, the OSHA regulations would
apply.)  However, an entity could take the regulations and make them a
part of their requirements.  They would have to assure that all
participants are expected to follow those exceptions
or else they'd be opening themselves to lawsuits (but not following them
would not lead to an OSHA fine if the person was not part of the

Helen Gerhard
719-574-5577 (h)
719-290-8456 (c)

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To all concerned:

Sorry, but Rob Toreki's helpful suggestions do NOT apply to students. 
That is, the OSHA regulations, even the lab standard cannot be enforced
on students.  It applies in an enforceable manner only to paid
 so, as Rob correctly suggests, the male and female professors and TA's
are to wear pants, but as far as OSHA is concerned, the kiddies may wear
whatever they like.

Jay Young

PS:  I would hope of course, that the Profs and TA's would indeed
their own local requirements for proper attire for students in the lab.

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