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Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 14:21:18 -0500
Reply-To: Anne Skinner <Anne.R.Skinner**At_Symbol_Here**WILLIAMS.EDU>
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From: Anne Skinner <Anne.R.Skinner**At_Symbol_Here**WILLIAMS.EDU>
Subject: Re: Need Your Opinion on Safety Issues
In-Reply-To: <p06010226bf96a1ff62d5**At_Symbol_Here**[192.168.2.4]>
Just my $.02 -- our safety program specifically says that although we
are not required to enforce OSHA standards on students, we will do so
as a matter of policy. I agree that saying 'OSHA doesn't make us'
would cut very little ice if something happened.
Anne Skinner
>>To all concerned:
>>
>>Sorry, but Rob Toreki's helpful suggestions do NOT apply to students.
>>That is, the OSHA regulations, even the lab standard cannot be enforced
>>on students. It applies in an enforceable manner only to paid employees.
>> so, as Rob correctly suggests, the male and female professors and TA's
>>are to wear pants, but as far as OSHA is concerned, the kiddies may wear
>>whatever they like.
>
>Yes, students are not covered under OSHA - I didn't mean to create
>the impression that students are covered, although it appears that I
>may have. From the risk assessment, regulations and best practices
>I enumerated I was making the case that they SHOULD apply. Thanks
>for that fine point, as it's an important distinction and a very key
>point.
>
>Profs and TA's that are employees at private universities do fall
>under OSHA (state or federal depending on whether you're in a State
>Plan state), of course. State employees will vary, of course.
>
>Imagine the field day that an attorney would have if one's students
>weren't required to meet the same level of PPE that the instructors
>were.... "Gee, Dr. Devious, isn't it true that YOU are required by
>law to have [insert PPE here] when you work in the lab but you
>didn't feel it necessary to offer that same protection to your
>student who was so horribly [insert string of gory adjectives]
>[insert list of injuries, real and claimed]"
>
>Rob
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Dr. Anne Skinner
Chemistry Department, Williams College
47 Lab Campus Drive
Williamstown, MA 01267
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Phone: (413) 597-2285
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