Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:53:23 -0400
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From: Andrew Gross <gross.drew**At_Symbol_Here**GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: Abbreviations
In-Reply-To: <4BB5DA49.1C4E.0091.0**At_Symbol_Here**ph.lacounty.gov>

I havent seen anyone bring up almost standard abbriviations such as
MeOH, EtOH, PtOH (phenoxytol for those in food, cosmetics etc).
Personally I think those are excessive, they are so close to periodic
table "lingo" that I don't see the shortcut going from CH3OH to MeOH.

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Eric Clark  wrote:
> Good point, Bradley. =A0The firemen who inspected the lab recently wanted
 an NFPA fire diamond with "0,0,0" on the 600-gallon DI water tank, I can u
nderstand that. =A0Of course they don't care about the DI wash bottles on t
he bench (although they did notice the one that was labeled HIV - for the l
ab section).
> Our Chemical Hygiene Plan has a list of lab-specific acronyms and abbrevi
ations right up front. =A0But that still doesn't really solve that shorthan
d labeling problem we see from time to time. =A0[But then everyone in the l
ab seems to know what a container that's labeled "128" is, right? (it's ves
phene diluted down 1:128).] =A0Thanks to this discussion string, I'll be cr
eating reagent-specific label templates for things we make up all the time 
- like the profiled hazardous waste streams. =A0It's a complex field folks.
 =A0(Hope you don't mind that I used a few undefined acronyms.)
> =A0http://www.acronymslist.com/
> Top Five:
> Chemistry Acronyms (14383)
> NASA Acronyms (8940)
> Uncategorized Acronyms (5754)
> Atmospheric Research Center Acronyms (4622)
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>
> Eric Clark, MS, CCHO, CHMM
> Safety & Compliance Officer
> Los Angeles County Public Health Lab
>
>>>> Bradley Harris  4/2/2010 8:15 AM >>>
> Using Abbreviations should be dependent on several items, including hazar
d levels, and the amount of chemical. =A0For example, a small container wit
h non hazardous chemicals used in a small laboratory could have an abbrevia
tion. =A0If there is a gallon, or 55 gallons of the same chemical the conta
iner should have a full label.
>
> teaching abbreviations in school seems to undermine the information given
 from the full chemical name.
>
> Brad
>
>
> On Apr 1, 2010, at 9:20 PM, Alan Hall wrote:
>
>> Use simple chemical formulas: =A0NaCN, KCN, Ca2Cn2, etc, I won't argue: 
use abbreviations that might kill somebody, BAD idea.
>>
>> Whoever has to walk into a HAZMAT incident doesn't have time to look for
 a bunch of abbreviations. =A0Lives may be on the line. =A0The AHLS Course 
stresses some of that. =A0Those who have not worn Level A or Level B might 
consider that others have and will continue to due so. =A0Bad labels, some 
of us might be invoked, whether needed or not.
>>
>> Alan
>> ahalltoxic**At_Symbol_Here**msn.com
>>
>>
>> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 19:50:48 -0400
>> From: JAKSAFETY**At_Symbol_Here**AOL.COM
>> Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Abbreviations
>> To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
>>
>> One of the major problems is going to be distinguishing TLAs from FLAs. 
=A0 ... Jim
>>
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