Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 15:54:49 -0500
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From: "Long, Don" <don.long**At_Symbol_Here**WGINT.COM>
Subject: Re: Abbreviations
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Brings up another interesting point - labeling of containers. As one guy 
pointed out, everyone in his lab may know what "128" is, but are we 
labeling our containers IAW 29 CFR 1910.1200 (HazCom Standard)? The 
whole point of labeling containers is to convey possible hazards. If we 
use the same abbreviations that we are using in documents on our 
containers, are we maintaining the spirit and intent of the standard ?

Don A. Long
Southwest Research Institute Laboratory
Pine Bluff Chemical Agent Disposal Facility
PO Box 20130
White Hall, AR  71612

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Good point, Bradley.  The firemen who inspected the lab recently wanted 
an NFPA fire diamond with "0,0,0" on the 600-gallon DI water tank, I can 
understand that.  Of course they don't care about the DI wash bottles on 
the bench (although they did notice the one that was labeled HIV - for 
the lab section).  
Our Chemical Hygiene Plan has a list of lab-specific acronyms and 
abbreviations right up front.  But that still doesn't really solve that 
shorthand labeling problem we see from time to time.  [But then everyone 
in the lab seems to know what a container that's labeled "128" is, 
right? (it's vesphene diluted down 1:128).]  Thanks to this discussion 
string, I'll be creating reagent-specific label templates for things we 
make up all the time - like the profiled hazardous waste streams.  It's 
a complex field folks.  (Hope you don't mind that I used a few undefined 
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Eric Clark, MS, CCHO, CHMM 
Safety & Compliance Officer 
Los Angeles County Public Health Lab

>>> Bradley Harris  4/2/2010 8:15 AM >>>
Using Abbreviations should be dependent on several items, including 
hazard levels, and the amount of chemical.  For example, a small 
container with non hazardous chemicals used in a small laboratory could 
have an abbreviation.  If there is a gallon, or 55 gallons of the same 
chemical the container should have a full label.

teaching abbreviations in school seems to undermine the information 
given from the full chemical name.


On Apr 1, 2010, at 9:20 PM, Alan Hall wrote:

> Use simple chemical formulas:  NaCN, KCN, Ca2Cn2, etc, I won't argue: 
use abbreviations that might kill somebody, BAD idea.
> Whoever has to walk into a HAZMAT incident doesn't have time to look 
for a bunch of abbreviations.  Lives may be on the line.  The AHLS 
Course stresses some of that.  Those who have not worn Level A or Level 
B might consider that others have and will continue to due so.  Bad 
labels, some of us might be invoked, whether needed or not.
> Alan
> ahalltoxic**At_Symbol_Here** 
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 19:50:48 -0400
> From: JAKSAFETY**At_Symbol_Here**AOL.COM 
> Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Abbreviations
> To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU 
> One of the major problems is going to be distinguishing TLAs from 
FLAs.   ... Jim
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