Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:49:56 -0600
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From: Alan Hall <ahalltoxic**At_Symbol_Here**MSN.COM>
Subject: Re: Odor
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Since it is a microbiology laboratory, have you considered any of the bio logical organisms that contribute to the problem of "Athlete's foot" (some are odoriferous fungi) that might be being grown/incubated?  Could t here be some cultures of such in there?  Certainly, many "moldy" o dors are actually from biological organisms.  Could it in fact be th at "dirty socks" are actually dirty socks (as in someone's overlooked gym b ag)?
I'm reminded of a case at a major IBM facility a friend of mine investigate d some years ago of "sick building syndrome" in an office area that turned out to be a "lost" mouldy orange buried beneath paperwork in a worker's low er desk drawer (after an expensive IH evaluation of multiple worker odor co mplaints had already been done). 
Just a thought.
Alan H. Hall, M.D.
Medical Toxicologist.

Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 10:57:04 +0000
From: patty.olinger**At_Symbol_Here**EMORY.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Odor
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Hi Rachel,  Obviously from the responses you=92ve received there could be several poss ibilities.  Dry traps are usually a good one to start with.  If you (and your facilities and research staff) have exhausted all possibil ities there is also something called =93dirty sock syndrome=94.  Goo gle it and you will see many reference and discussions.  Here is a l ink with an explanation.


http://www.f 0&view=articles&_category=Residential%3A%3AAir%20Conditioni ng%20%26%20Heating%20&_filterField=Categories


We recently had an i ssue that people described as dirty socks, sewer gas, etc. After severa l months found the odor by reviewing the floor plan of the building an d following the pipes in the walls.  We found a couple of uncapped p ipes that were no longer in use.< /SPAN>


Good luck,< /P>





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"Harrington, Rachel" <rachel.harrington**At_Symbol_Here**ROS ALINDFRANKLIN.EDU> wrote:

We have a strong =93dirty socks=94 odor present in one of our micro labs.  It=92s a pretty typical lab using media and cultures, etc.  and we are systematically removing everything and deconning but this odor is persisting.  I know I have smelt this che mical before, maybe back in my undergraduate days, but it is really a s ickening odor.  Any ideas?  Any help is greatly appreciated.& nbsp; Thank you!


Rachel E. Harrin gton, MPH, CHMM

Director- Office of Environmental, Health and Safety

Rosalind Frankli n University of Medicine and Science

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North Chicago, IL  60064

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