Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 17:59:00 -0600
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From: Alan Hall <ahalltoxic**At_Symbol_Here**MSN.COM>
Subject: Re: CSB Texas Tech Case Study
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Perhaps the old adage that:  "Nothing is less common than common sense." applies?
> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:48:34 +0000
> From: dmdecker**At_Symbol_Here**UCDAVIS.EDU
> Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] CSB Texas Tech Case Study
> To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU
> I appreciate the paraphrase from Jay. But Jay and I went around about this more than once. Commonsense is cultural and presumes a common frame of reference. For some of myresearchers, common sense is to NEVER trust that clean water will come out of the tap and to NEVER trust that electrical power will be consistentlyapplied to a particular piece of research equipment. Or even that the lights will actually come on when the switch is turned on.
>I think it's risky for health and safety professionals, born and raised in the US, to assume that our flavor of "common sense" is applicable to an incredibly diverse work force. I think it's probably more reasonable to presume no baseline health and safety knowledge and start from there. More work, certainly, but then the health and safety professional has some confidence that everyone is starting from the same spot.
>My thoughts, only, and you should insert a disclaimer here.
> Debbie
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: DCHAS-L Discussion List[mailto:dchas-l**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU] On Behalf Of Ernest Lippert
> Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2011 11:04 AM
> To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU
> Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] CSB Texas Tech Case Study
> To All,
> What is obviously lacking, in addition toeffective communication, is
> common sense. A point I make in safety training is: "Careful
> consideration must be given to every operation where the risk of
> injury may occur. Always, education, information, and common sense
> should dictate the consequentially proper procedures", (paraphrased
> from Jay A. Young).
> Regards,
> Ernest Lippert
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 1:35 PM, Erik A. Talley <ert2002**At_Symbol_Here**> wrote:
> > Your Friend, Erik Talley, has recommended the following page on CSB Startup NET
> >
> > Title: CSB Texas Tech Case Study
> > URL:
> >
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> >
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