From: Monona Rossol <actsnyc**At_Symbol_Here**>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Chemistry classroom fire injures 6
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2015 09:16:56 -0500
Reply-To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**MED.CORNELL.EDU>
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Ah Ralph, you dream about the NFPA 45 thing, but I like your dreams.

Sadly, until teachers stop being more like children than their students, I'm still for taking away their toys.  And that includes your BBP-averse friend from the reunion.

Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A., Industrial Hygienist
President:  Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
Safety Officer: Local USA829, IATSE
181 Thompson St., #23
New York, NY 10012     212-777-0062


-----Original Message-----
From: Stuart, Ralph <Ralph.Stuart**At_Symbol_Here**KEENE.EDU>
Sent: Mon, Nov 2, 2015 8:47 am
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Chemistry classroom fire injures 6

> Here in NY is it the teacher's union that doesn't want to get behind even the
required state OSHA (PESH) hazcom and lab standard training of teachers.  The
teachers find it boring 

At my high school reunion a couple of weeks ago, a
former classmate who is now a teacher at the school said in passing that they
had had to sit through Blood Borne pathogen training again the week before and
it was a waste of time, just like last year. Later, she was rather chagrined
when she asked I my job was and I said  "I give safety training, including BBP".

With regard to the methanol demonstration question, I think that the new
NFPA 45 standard gives a pretty good basis for planning chemical demonstration
safety; perhaps a contribution that ACS could make would be to develop a model
document that outlines the basic information for these requirements with regard
to work with methanol. These instructor responsibilities include:
- A
documented hazard risk assessment
- A safety briefing for students
- PPE for
both faculty and students
- Safety barriers as required 
- An instructor that
is trained and knowledgeable in fire safety procedures, emergency plans, hazards
Such a document should be clear that it is a template that needs to be
modified to meet local requirements, but might provide a basis for teachers who
develop plans for such demonstrations via google to identify the best practices
to include-

- Ralph

Ralph Stuart, CIH, CCHO
Chemical Hygiene
Keene State College


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