From: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] [*Newsletter*] [DCHAS-L] TBE Buffer: Conflicting Hazard Clarification
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 17:43:59 +0000
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Oh that bogles the mind.  Imagine that you are the reviewer of such a study and the data didn't include socio-economic influence factors.  I don't even know anyone who regularly consumes caviar.  Do you?

Monona 


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All:

Isn't boric acid or borax used to treat sturgeon eggs to transform them into caviar? The consumers of caviar would be a likely source of epidemiological studies on the reproductive health effects of low levels of boric acid consumption.



On Feb 15, 2022, at 10:20 AM, Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU> wrote:

That makes sense.  We just have to wait for enough pregnant people to be exposed and look at the data before we act.  Monona


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Monique,
 
While boric acid is commonly classified as a reproductive toxicant, the data to support that classification is mixed at best. My (limited) understanding is that reproductive effects have been shown in animal models, but that epidemiological studies in humans have failed to show significant effects. This recent review seems to be reasonably comprehensive for those who want to dig into what's out there:
 
 
Chris
 
 
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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU> On Behalf Of Penny Chatterton
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2022 6:00 AM
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Monique,
 
If you were to make the TBE Buffer yourself with the indicated concentrations of boric acid, both of these mixture concentrations would have to be classified and labeled for Reproductive Toxicity, Category 1. For generic mixtures (where no testing is performed on the mixture as a whole), the presence of a Reproductive Toxicant in Category 1 at equal to or greater than 0.1% w/w requires the mixture to be classified as such. This is per OSHA's Hazard Communication Standard (Federal Register / Vol. 77, No. 58 / Monday, March 26, 2012 / Rules and Regulations, page 17811).
 
Perhaps the TBE Buffer SDS you reference was made differently? Or the manufacturer has actually sponsored toxicity testing to be able to state that the product is non-hazardous? That should be indicated in Section 11, if so.
 
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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU> On Behalf Of Monique Wilhelm
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2022 10:09 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU
Subject: [DCHAS-L] TBE Buffer: Conflicting Hazard Clarification
 
Hi Everyone,
 
QUESTION:  Is the toxic hazard and pictogram required on these labels?  
 
I thought I read somewhere that a label for a mixture does not have to include the hazard of any component less than 1% but cannot easily find it right now.  I know carcinogens designations occur at a much lower concentration, 0.001%.  So, is the 1% rule true?  Does anyone know of this guideline?
 
My institution uses ChemWatch Gold FFX for SDS and labeling info.  Being a biochemist who always made her own solutions, when I looked up TBE info, I looked up each component.  Boric acid is listed as a reproductive poison health hazard on its SDS.  But, the researcher just looked up TBE buffer and it was listed as non-hazardous.  The boric acid is at 0.5% when at 1x concentration, but is often made at 10x concentration and later diluted down.  Is it still considered hazardous at these concentrations and require the toxic hazard and pictogram on these labels?
 
Thank you,
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Monique Wilhelm
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