DCHAS-L Archives · Post dated January 29, 2004
From: al.muehlhausen**At_Symbol_Here**CIBAVISION.NOVARTIS.COM
Subject: Re: Toxicologist and Course on Chemical Safety
Date: Jan 29, 2004 19:01 UTC
Reply-To: al.muehlhausen**At_Symbol_Here**CIBAVISION.NOVARTIS.COM
In-Reply-To:
The Handbook of Laboratory Health and Safety authored by R. Scott Stricoff and Douglas B. Walters provides succinct guidance regarding the topic, and I rely on it as a useful ready reference book combining all core aspects of Laboratory Safety. It is encouraging to see this sort of initiative, where Chemists can obtain awareness about HSE prior to entering the work force. I have found over the years that many of the technical elements of HSE, such as IH, Toxicology, and Engineering/Construction standards, are aspects that Chemists often do not directly address during the course of his or her work. There is however, a need for Chemists to understand how exposures occur, how they are controlled, what classical safety measures should be employed to prevent catastrophic incidents, where the responsibilities lie to ensure that safe work practices are maintained, and what steps are traditionally used for prevention. I have rarely perceived great value for the Chemist when it comes to in depth regulatory knowledge, but rather have found the bigger pay-off comes when requirements are translated into key criteria for operational excellence. This often means identifying critical improvement areas through systematic self-auditing activities and evaluations of lab specific operations using risk analysis methods. It may be useful to use examples of auditing processes and risk analysis techniques during your training to enhance the students ability to think through their own solutions, as they will inevitably be faced with limited HSE resources and have to determine the most viable options to address HSE concerns on their own. Al Muehlhausen Novartis/CIBA Vision Corporate R&D Health, Safety, and Environmental Officer Chemist, CHO Donald RosenthalSent by: DCHAS-L Discussion List 01/29/2004 09:49 AM Please respond to Donald Rosenthal To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU cc: Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Toxicologist and Course on Chemical Safety The Intercollegiate Course - "Chemical Safety: Protecting Ourselves and the Environment" evolved as a result of an online CONFCHEM conference organized by George Wahl, Jr.: "Teaching Safety in High Schools, Colleges, and Universities" <http://www.ched-ccce.org/confchem/2002/c/> In some of the online discussion (on and after November 19) the possibility of offering a Chemical Safety course was discussed and the course as presently described on the course website was developed. (see Food for thought One of the reasons for offering the course is that many employers (in industry and government) have found college and university chemistry students not adequately prepared to cope with and understand safety issues. The proposed course has been designed to help better prepare undergraduate students in diverse areas of chemical safety. One course can not hope to cover every aspect of safety. The "Course Contents" section of the course website provides an outline of some of the topics which will be covered. If toxicologists wish to be involved in offering the course to undergraduates at their colleges and universities, we welcome their participation. I am not certain I understand the comments of John Keller and Doug Walters. Are you saying the course would be better if there were a toxocologist involved? Why is this necessarily so? Would the course be better if there were a physician, fireman, university safety officer, or rescue squad person involved? There is a classroom as well as an online component to this course and individual instructors could invite guest lecturers. We welcome receiving SPECIFIC comments and suggestions about the course. Donald Rosenthal Department of Chemistry Clarkson University Potsdam NY 13699-5810 ********************************************************** > Subject: RE: Toxocology and Course on Chemical Safety > Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 16:04:47 -0500 > From: "Doug Walters" > To: "Donald Rosenthal" , > > CC: > I think John Keller makes a very good point, which should > be considered in the future if it is too late now. > Doug Walters ********************************************************** >> Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Intercollegiate Course on Chemical Safety >> Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:16:00 -0500 >> From: "toxicol" >> To: "Donald Rosenthal" >> Who are the toxicologists involved in the teaching? >> John Keller **********************************************************