Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 07:50:17 -0400
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From: "Meszaros Steven I." <MESZARS**At_Symbol_Here**WYETH.COM>
Subject: Re: Storing Gas Cylinders Horizontally
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I usual don't respond to these inquiries since so many individuals
comment. The cylinders are designed with a relieving plug at the top. The
plug is designed to blow and relief the build up of gas pressure typically
resulting from external heat, like a fire. If you store them on there side
the plug will be in the liquid phase of the compressed gas. Few things
happen if the cylinder is over heated. The pressure build up in the vapor
space may become greater then the liquid phase (easier to compress
vapor then liquid) this results in the plug bursting later then it was
design for thus creating a risk of the cylinder wall bursting. Also the
top is designed thicker then the side also creating a cylinder wall
failure risk. Next the relief orifice will now be relieving liquid not
gas. It was sized and designed for gas. Now you have introduced a liquid
pooling fire under and around the cylinder. If you stack them then
complicate the concern by one heating or creating an impingement flame on
another. I can get into a huge discussion on the lateral and horizontal
forces on a cylinder when the burst plug opens. They are designed to stand
on there own and relieve pressure straight up in the air thus putting
pressure on the base. If the are laying on there side the force result in
spinning and possible torpedoing of the cylinder if the valve fails during
the event. In the end don't store them on there side.
Steven Meszaros
Pfizer
Corporate Risk Management
Director
EHS
Collegeville, PA
484-865-9982
484-356-5185 (cell)
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> "Debbie M. Decker" <dmdecker**At_Symbol_Here**UCDAVIS.EDU> 10/27/2009 6:12:36 PM
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Excuse the cross-postings.
Besides not storing acetylene (and other fuel gases)
horizontally, can you think of any reason why gas cylinders can't be
stored horizontally?
Thanks,
Debbie
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