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Re: flammable cabinet question
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Nov 10, 2010 16:36 UTC
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Re: flammable cabinet question
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Nov 10, 2010 15:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: flammable cabinet question
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I see
the point trying to be brought up. There are some rules and procedures
out there
that while addressing one problem end up causing another one. I deal
with those
issues myself on an almost daily basis.
The
point I was wanting to make is that it is not up to us to decide to
ignore or
work around a standard or legal requirement to do something because we
may not
agree with it. It appears that this person's local jurisdiction has
adopted at
least part of NFPA 1 (Uniform Fire Code) which when discussing Hazardous
Materials Storage Cabinets states in part: "doors shall be well
fitted,
self-closing, and equipped with a self-latching device". Some
states
have adopted the UFC statewide while others have had only local
jurisdictions
adopt it. This isn't a simple rule or procedural issue - this is a legal
compliance issue.
The
bottom line on this issue is that if it's mandated by law we really
don't have a
choice but to comply and should do our part to ensure our folks can
comply
in a safe manner instead of ignoring it. NFPA reviews standards on a
regular
basis. I completely agreed with you when you stated that "often rules
are made
by people who are only looking at one small part of a
situation". One way
we can address items like this is by joining NFPA and
becoming involved in
the process that updates the standards.
Don A.
Long
STS,
CAIH
Southwest
Research Institute Laboratory
Pine Bluff Chemical Agent Disposal
Facility
PO Box
20130
White Hall, AR
71612
870-541-4930
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It
is hard to see the sense in following “safety rules” that
cause more danger
than they prevent. Often rules are made by people who are only
looking
at one small part of a situation and not at all considering the
overall
ramifications of their dictates. Consider the post this
morning
from Ina Ahern whose local fire department is mandating the use of a
tubing
which has been shown to cause safety problems (see her post) when all
that is
needed is a program to increase awareness as to the importance of
inspecting
tubing; at most a requirement that inspections occur and are
documented at
regular stated intervals.
Kay
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Date:
November 10, 2010 6:54:08 AM EST
Subject:
RE: [DCHAS-L] flammable cabinet question
"I
recently bought several safety cabinets, and I found that it is the
state that
mandates self closing doors. Luckily, we were able to purchase
ones with
manual doors."
This
spooks me. The above statement implies that even though self-closing
doors are
mandated by state law (probably a UFC state) but inconvenient, you
have
decided to ignore the law. I hope that's not what I
read.
It's
hard to convince employees of the importance of safety rules and
standards
when we ourselves ignore the "inconvenient"
ones.
Southwest
Research Institute Laboratory
Pine
Bluff Chemical Agent Disposal Facility
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