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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] LADA Agreement (and working safely as a condition of employment)
Date: August 9, 2012 9:47:55 AM EDT
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Demystify:
I'm going to stand with Monona here and repeat that this has to be about
creating more effective (lab) safety programs. If we don't like the
result, what are we going to do differently.
Unless colleges and universities accept the principle that "working safely
is a condition of employment" they will never have the best possible (lab)
safety programs. ... Jim
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Kaufman, Ph.D. Chair, ICASE Committee on Safety in Science
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In a message dated 8/9/2012 12:00:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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So I say
yet again, we should only be discussing one thing: How to make safety
personnel and their programs more effective. For example, since lack of
training was an issue in the UCLA case, how are people planning to get
everyone trained and regularly updated? An untrained person is a
school's weak link. If nobody wants to enforce attendance, I'd be
interested in what alternate strategies people are using and how is that
working out.
Look, if everyone just wants to share glowing words about
the life and mission of academic safety people and not even discuss making
changes in these hallowed programs, fine--I'll back off and wait for the next
accident. But I'm not blind. I can see that in most of the schools in which I
work the programs are not working. And it is especially dangerous in the
art and theater departments--appalling
actually.
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