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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] 2 Girls Burned During Chemistry Experiment At High School In The Bronx

Date: Oct 6, 2018 14:12 UTC

Author: Patricia Redden <predden**At_Symbol_Here**SAINTPETERS.EDU>

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] 2 Girls Burned During Chemistry Experiment At High School In The Bronx

Date: Oct 6, 2018 14:31 UTC

Author: Samuella Sigmann <sigmannsb**At_Symbol_Here**appstate.edu>

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From: Rob Toreki <info**At_Symbol_Here**ILPI.COM>

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Thoughts on some arguments against drains under safety showers

Date: Oct 6, 2018 14:22 UTC

Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety

In-Reply-To: Re: [DCHAS-L] Thoughts on some arguments against drains under safety showers

Demystify: 

Disclaimer: My company. Safety Emporium, is both a Guardian Equipment and Justrite distributor.

Guardian Equipment also makes enclosed booths, however these are stainless steel units meant primarily for cleanroom applications:  http://safetyemporium.com/G2010

Modesty curtains are also available for Guardian's shower line (and presumably other brands): http://www.safetyemporium.com/ap250-065 and http://www.safetyemporium.com/ap250-015  They may seem a bit expensive, but when you think about the time and effort to design, jury-rig,  and maintain something on your own, they really aren't.  Modesty considerations are one important factor that can turn a minor incident into a serious incident or a serious incident into a fatality. See, for example, https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm4923a3.htm 

Justrite also makes booth units: https://www.justrite.com/safety-showers-eyewashes/indoor-emergency-safety-showers.html  Ignore that fantastical list pricing on their site as you can get these through dealers considerably cheaper (contact me off list if you're curious about pricing or lead times).  Note that some even include sump pumps, so excess water in the sump can be directed to an existing drain system, which means you can do these as retrofit installations without the hassle and expense of ripping up the floor to put in a new floor drain.

Hawes also has a booth system: https:​//www.hawsco.com/emergency-equipment/combination-units/8605wc-axion-msr-booth-enclosed-shower-and-eye-face-wash/ 

Finally, if you're designing your own building, you can think about building an alcove for your safety stations so you can put a simple shower curtain and rod across the front.  Just make sure the alcove is wheelchair-accessible and has dimensions that meet ADA requirements. I suspect, however, that this last method is actually among the most expensive options!

Rob Toreki

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On Oct 6, 2018, at 3:43 AM, Michael Ahler <mahler**At_Symbol_Here**HANCOCKCOLLEGE.EDU> wrote: