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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Former student sentenced to seven years for poisoningco lleague

Date: Dec 13, 2018 18:14 UTC

Author: Kirk Hunter <kirk.p.hunter**At_Symbol_Here**GMAIL.COM>

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Former student sentenced to seven years for poisoningco lleague

Date: Dec 13, 2018 21:24 UTC

Author: Zack Mansdorf <mansdorfz**At_Symbol_Here**BELLSOUTH.NET>

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From: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Former student sentenced to seven years for poisoningco lleague

Date: Dec 13, 2018 19:58 UTC

Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety

In-Reply-To: Re: [DCHAS-L] Former student sentenced to seven years for poisoningco lleague

Demystify: 

I remember that case.  And there are some barium nitrate cases that are similar. Barium carbonate works also but the solubility is so low that the dose is usually noticed. Barium mimics a heart attack so well that if you pick the victim with care, no one will even look for the barium.

Barium compounds and frits are in most ceramic glaze mixing areas in colleges.  It is also easy to formulate a ceramic glaze that leaches significant amounts of barium into food and drink that is consumed from the ware. 

This is what happens when I'm sick at home watching old "Murder She Wrote" reruns.

BTW, congrats are in order. December 9,  I did my one-woman show at Feinstein's to a packed house.  Went well.  Yesterday, the nightclub's Program Director contacted my Producer, Emily, and he asked if we'd do a return engagement.  Nice response to the first professional performance I've done in 20 years.

Monona 



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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Former student sentenced to seven years for poisoningco lleague

Hi All,
 
These posts about students poisoning someone brought back memories of this story that happened here in North Texas (and just a few miles from where I live) in the mid-90s using barium acetate.  A high school student took some barium acetate from the chemistry lab and used it to "salt" her father's refried beans. Yes, he died. The coroner did not find anything unusual and cited cause of death was a heart attack.  What's amazing is that she ALMOST got away with it!!  
 
 
Stay vigilant!
 
Kirk Hunter
Waxahachie, Texas
 
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Former student sentenced to seven years for poisoningco lleague
 
Unsolved sodium azide cases as well:
 
 
 
One would hope someone tried cross-matching the personnel records of both institutions at the time.
 
 
I also recall rumors from one school that a professor's wife suicide using laboratory cyanide was actually a cleverly disguised murder.
 
And there is the ever-famous mysterious death of Al Cotton, someone who could have potentially won the Nobel Prize in chemistry had he not made so many enemies.  I suspect this one was like Murder on the Orient Express - (spoiler alert) - everyone did it!  Although this one appears to be injuries rather than toxins.  https://www.theeagle.com/news/a_m/professor-cotton-s-death-investigated/article_6ae94cde-757c-5674-a24b-bc7319a73281.html and http://ipbiz.blogspot.com/2007/05/death-of-famous-chemistry-prof-fa.html
 
Rob Toreki
 
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