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From: Harold Ingmire <hingmire**At_Symbol_Here**WHIPMIX.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Beacon HS student burned in botched chemistry experiment awarded nearly $60M
Date: Jul 2, 2019 18:54 UTC
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ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety
In-Reply-To: Re: [DCHAS-L] Beacon HS student burned in botched chemistry experiment awarded nearly $60M
Your ongoing frustration and fight with getting schools to teach safety is reflected in the workforce. At 40 years in doing industrial safety, and constantly
working to prevent serious injury, illness and death among our employees, it still unfortunately takes a "stick" approach to keep them to follow safety procedures. Fits right in there with seat belts, texting, etc.
Also, forget common sense, as I believe that is developed through experience - good or bad.
Keep up the good work - I agree this should be taught as mandatory in schools.
Harold
From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
On Behalf Of Monona Rossol
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2019 1:45 PM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Beacon HS student burned in botched chemistry experiment awarded nearly $60M
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As I pointed out in a previous email, i offered free expert witness to students who wanted to sue their schools for faud since they are granting degrees to students
who don't know the safety rules, and have never even seen their work done safety because the school itself didn't have the proper equipment, ventilation, space and so on. And three students have had tuition refunded.
Those initials after their name should mean something.
Monona
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From: Christina Dillard <cdillard**At_Symbol_Here**MOS.ORG>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Sent: Tue, Jul 2, 2019 1:06 pm
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Beacon HS student burned in botched chemistry experiment awarded nearly $60M
Monona,
I completely agree, NO ONE should graduate without knowing the physical principles related to fire� OSHA and so on! It should be a serious course!
I still think we also need to change the culture and make safety and important and integral part of all science education. We need to get the message out to those
that are already in their positions and help them recognize their hazards and take proper precautions.
Best,
Christina
From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
On Behalf Of Monona Rossol
Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 12:27 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Beacon HS student burned in botched chemistry experiment awarded nearly $60M
Safety should not be in the hands of individual teachers, however wonderful some of them may be, to incorporate into lessons bit by bit as their individual experience
and temperament dictate.
Safety is a profession and a discipline all by its damn self. There needs to be a required course in which all of the basic principles and regulatory issues are
taught. No one should graduate without knowing the physical principles related to fire, explosion, basic toxicology, how to read an SDS and a proper label, the applicable OSHA regulations, and so on.
And no 1 credit survey course either. It needs to be tough, organized, detailed, and specific to the hazards and equipment used in the type of chemistry the student
is pursuing.
Monona