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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] LD50 Source Data

Date: Oct 18, 2019 11:53 UTC

Author: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] LD50 Source Data

Date: Oct 18, 2019 12:10 UTC

Author: Samuella Sigmann <sigmannsb**At_Symbol_Here**appstate.edu>

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From: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Validity of the risk matrix

Date: Oct 18, 2019 11:57 UTC

Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety

In-Reply-To: Re: [DCHAS-L] Validity of the risk matrix

Demystify: 

Thanks.  Because in my worker population, getting them to think about risk in any fashion is a big plus.  Monona


-----Original Message-----
From: Wright, Mike <mwright**At_Symbol_Here**USW.ORG>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Sent: Fri, Oct 18, 2019 6:26 am
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Validity of the risk matrix

I wasn't responding to your message Monona, but to the one about killing the risk matrix. And I think I was the one who wasn't clear. I am certainly not arguing against data. You need the kind of information you gathered for a quantitative or a qualitative risk assessment. And of course you need it to figure out how to fix the problem.
 
My beef is with pushing quantitative methods beyond their limits and thereby coming to wrong conclusions or delaying action. We rarely do quantitative risk assessments, except in rulemakings and comp cases where the courts pretty much demand them. But in workplace audits, we usually operate at the level of: "Hey, there's a fair amount of lead and cadmium in this stuff. We need to make sure nobody's breathing it in, ingesting it, or taking it home on their clothes."
 
Mike
 
Michael J. Wright
Director of Health, Safety and Environment
United Steelworkers
 
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412-370-0105 cell
 
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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU] On Behalf Of Monona Rossol
Sent: Thursday, October 17, 2019 12:27 PM
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