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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] delaye..d acid burn

Date: Nov 7, 2019 09:09 UTC

Author: Daniel Kuespert <0000057d3b6cd9b7-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] delayed acid burn

Date: Nov 7, 2019 14:06 UTC

Author: Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>

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From: Erica Beiguel de Busleiman <erica**At_Symbol_Here**BUANZO.COM.AR>

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] delayed acid burn

Date: Nov 7, 2019 11:45 UTC

Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>

In-Reply-To: Re: [DCHAS-L] delayed acid burn

Demystify: 
Hi!

I'm talking from my experience as teacher. 
Sulfuric acid and iodoacetic burns ussualy are deep but localized. Excessive washing with hidrogen peroxide could expand the burn but not to the extend told here. If the extend is caused for ineffective washing, the itching would be inmediate no delayed. The 24 -48 hours windows is usually microbiological growth.

Wastewater are very rich in patogens, and others risks. You must respect them. I use two pairs of gloves and change them periodically to avoid accumulation and contamination. And wash my hands with antibacterial soap after handling them.


Erica Beiguel
Chemistry bachelor
Argentina




On Thu, 7 Nov 2019, 07:18 Kristi Ohr, <kohr**At_Symbol_Here**umass.edu> wrote:
Was there any information provided about what this person was handling or doing immediately before or after the handling of the acids?  I have investigated situations where potential chemical exposures in a lab are attributed to causes of delayed health effects when in fact it is far more likely for other non-lab related exposures to have played a causal role.

Thanks,

Kristi

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On Nov 6, 2019, at 12:05 PM, Wiediger, Susan <swiedig**At_Symbol_Here**siue.edu> wrote:



Howdy folks,

Asking this question on behalf of a colleague from another university (so if there are follow-up questions, there may be a communications delay in answering them):

 

What kinds of delayed reactions are known for iodoacetic or concentrated sulfuric acid?

 

Here’s the background:

A graduate student was working with concentrated sulfuric acid to acidify wastewater (wastewater treatment plant effluent) samples, and spiking them with iodoacetic acid (small quantities, since it was a spike). An experienced student, who had done this before , she was wearing nitrile gloves (the typical disposable type). To the best of her knowledge, she had no skin contact with the chemicals she was using and used proper glove removal technique.

 

Approximately a day or so later, she noticed a blistered looking patch on the back of her hand, near the joint of the thumb and first finger bones – about the size of a nickel. It spread, and by about four days after the presumed exposure, covered approximately half of the back of the hand. On-campus medical referred to a more experienced doctor, who ended up referring the student to a hospital with burn expertise (including chemical burns). The campus EH&S felt the response was due to the sulfuric or maybe the iodoacetic acids; the hospital agreed it looked like a chemical burn. The assumption is that acid penetrated the gloves or fell off the gloves onto skin during removal.


Treatment ended up including cadaver skin transplant; the student seems to be recovering well and doing fine. However, all involved would like a better understanding of what might have happened.

 

Information related to the question above, or other ideas as to what else you might consider checking for possibilities, is welcomed.

Thanks,

Sue

 

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Susan D. Wiediger, Ph.D.

Professor of Chemistry

Southern Illinois University Edwardsville

swiedig**At_Symbol_Here**siue.edu          618-650-3088

 

 

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