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From: Wright, Mike <mwright**At_Symbol_Here**USW.ORG>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Query about eye protection policy in academia
Date: Nov 9, 2019 15:37 UTC
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ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety
In-Reply-To: Re: [DCHAS-L] Query about eye protection policy in academia
Monona is right about safety glasses and goggles. And I'd add that face shields are for both splash and impact, but never alone. They are always supplementary
to glasses or goggles.
My union represents people in a wide variety of industrial labs and in a smaller set of academic labs. For the most part the industrial lab workers and managers
have a much more comprehensive and sophisticated understanding of safety, better PPE, better emergency response equipment and training, and better engineering controls. Of course, there are exceptions. I once encountered a lab in a major corporation where
they were handling concentrated hydrofluoric acid with goggles, but no face shields and regular FR clothing.
I'm sorry to hear about Yaritza's experience in a steel mill lab. If it was one of ours, I'd like to think that the safety committee would jump on that fast.
Mike Wright
Michael J. Wright
Director of Health, Safety and Environment
United Steelworkers
412-562-2580 office
412-370-0105 cell
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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU]
On Behalf Of Monona Rossol
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 7:01 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Query about eye protection policy in academia
Da bums! Call out the Marines. It's lucky any of us have any senses and appendages left. Monona
-----Original Message-----
From: Yaritza Brinker <YBrinker**At_Symbol_Here**FELE.COM>
To: DCHAS-L <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
Sent: Fri, Nov 8, 2019 6:06 pm
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Query about eye protection policy in academia
You're not confused Monona. The reality is that safety goggles in industrial settings have become default. Unless you are working in a setting doing "hard science"
and have a chemist for a boss, you are handed a pair of safety glasses rather than goggles. Heck, during my internship in a chemistry food laboratory there was no eye protection required! And it wasn't the 60's� we're talking after Y2K!
Wanna hear more? Back during my internship in a steel mill, I did titrations. My boss was a biology major. He handed me a pair of safety glasses for my PPE. No
gloves for handling the HCl either! But he was the boss and I was just the chem student intern.
Which is the primary reason I support the idea of instructing students on how to choose PPE, and doing so in the general chemistry class. Engineering students,
biology, physics, etc. usually all science students have to take a general chemistry course along with your chemistry students. Teach them all at the same time while you can!!!
Thank you,
Yaritza Brinker
260.827.5402
From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**PRINCETON.EDU>
On Behalf Of Monona Rossol
Sent: Friday, November 8, 2019 4:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Query about eye protection policy in academia
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I'm confused. Safety glasses are for impact. Chemical splash goggles are for chemical splash. While you can get chemical splash googles in which the eye piece
is also rated for impact, safety glasses provide no protection from chemical splash.
Safety glasses cannot be used as the default when eye hazard chemicals are being used. And that's that.