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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Admissions Tours in the Laboratories

Date: Feb 4, 2021 18:03 UTC

Author: Harrison, Paul <pharriso**At_Symbol_Here**MCMASTER.CA>

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] [External] Re: [DCHAS-L] Admissions Tours in the Laboratories

Date: Feb 4, 2021 18:52 UTC

Author: Samuella Sigmann <sigmannsb**At_Symbol_Here**appstate.edu>

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From: Denise Beautreau <deb313**At_Symbol_Here**LEHIGH.EDU>

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Admissions Tours in the Laboratories

Date: Feb 4, 2021 18:47 UTC

Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety

In-Reply-To: Re: [DCHAS-L] Admissions Tours in the Laboratories

Demystify: 

Paul,
There is certainly value added to the decision making of students by doing a walk through in the labs, kinda like when you are house hunting and going to open houses or showings. From my personal experience the issue is volume and access to the space at times where there wouldn't be someone to supervise (like at odd hours or weekends when faculty or other personnel do not have to be on campus and aren't willing to volunteer to be there), as well as the labs being in constant use at places with large teaching lab programs. What I would do is encourage STEM students to be admissions ambassadors and tour guides so they can share about those lab experiences as part of visits and tours, as well as have relationships with those that work in the lab so when they stop by to peek in they can catch our attention and if we are able to come out and talk to the group-did that many times on our campus. I'm am glad that you are able to safely have people actually view the labs at your institution..

Denise

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 1:13 PM Harrison, Paul <pharriso**At_Symbol_Here**mcmaster.ca> wrote:
Maybe the legal landscape is different in Canada, but at McMaster we make a point of taking students and parents through the undergraduate labs during specific events like Open Houses. Of course, everything is prepared to ensure safety. Our administrators ensure us that insurance covers everyone on campus anywhere at any time (although only registered students are allowed into operating undergraduate labs, it turns out that everyone is insured, we checked because we were worried about students who withdraw from a course but keep doing the lab component so that they do not have to re-do all the labs in their next attempt!).

The positive side to this open view policy is that we are complimented by parents, and they tell us they are really relieved to see that their children will be operating in labs where everything can be done in hoods, there is plenty of space for 2 students per hood (currently down to 1 in covid!), where everyone wears goggles and lab coats, where there is no apparent chemical odour... and so on.

To me at least, I feel that the benefits outweigh the really low level of risks. But if looking through a glass window works for you, then I am sure there is much less effort involved.

Best
Paul

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Admissions Tours in the Laboratories

I'm not currently in academia, but I know I was not allowed to enter the labs when I toured. Not even the gen chem one that was obviously empty at the time.

Thank you,

Yaritza Brinker

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