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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Chemical Safety headlines (11 articles)

Date: Aug 15, 2022 15:50 UTC

Author: Monique Wilhelm <mwilhelm**At_Symbol_Here**UMICH.EDU>

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Subject: [DCHAS-L] Research Safety Professional positions at the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign

Date: Aug 15, 2022 21:19 UTC

Author: Meschewski, Brian D <bmesche2**At_Symbol_Here**ILLINOIS.EDU>

From: Paul Burnett <pburnett**At_Symbol_Here**GARLIC.COM>

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] [Safety3] [External] [NAOSMM] Stockroom Security

Date: Aug 15, 2022 18:25 UTC

Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>

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Demystify: 
My favorite stockroom story: A few years after the FBI headquarters building, the Hoover Building, opened, I was called by a suspicious employee to do a safety inspection of the building’s chemical stockroom. 

With over a hundred labs in the building, the geniuses who designed the building put in a single central chemical stockroom, where the non-chemist employees stored a wide variety of chemicals primarily by container size and secondarily in alphabetical order! Common solvents were in 55-gallon barrels with a faucet, where lab staff could fill their solvent cans or beakers and take them to their lab in the elevators.  

I asked the employee who had called me if he knew of a senior Nobel-level PhD chemist in the building who could come to the stockroom. When this fellow showed up he was horrified. This led to a lot of changes…

Paul**At_Symbol_Here**PaulBurnett.com - Sent from my iPhone 11

On Aug 15, 2022, at 6:13 AM, Samuella Sigmann <sigmannsb**At_Symbol_Here**retired.appstate.edu> wrote:

 Jim - This is a battle I have fought, and it is really a tough one. One would think that common sense would win out over entitlement of faculty to pilfer at will, but alas that has not generally been my experience. Heaven forbid that someone plans ahead and does not need to get into the stockroom after hours.

Are all your faculty background checked?
Is the non-denatured ethanol double locked? (this is regulated)
Are the acutely toxic chemicals secure? Is someone going to take something to do harm to themselves or others?
Is there a re-shelving procedure? Unlike re-shelving a book, chemicals might just surprise you if re-shelved incorrectly.
What if someone leaves the door unsecured?
What is the plan when a teaching lab does not have a reagent because the a faculty member took it for their research or contaminated it?
Are you willing to pay for unlabeled hazardous waste left in the stockroom.
Most importantly, if the faculty all have key access, it won't be long before they give the keys to a student for them to "go get something".

When I renovated our stockroom, I put chain link cages around the majority of the chemicals. As a compromise, only faculty with research labs could access by card reader, but they could not get to the chemicals in the locked cages.

If I sound cynical, I am.  This is the worst idea ever....arghhhh.
Sammye


On 8/11/2022 11:16 AM, James Kaufman wrote:
Here's a question that I received and would like the feedback and suggestions of the listserv.  Thanks ... Jim 

I am the lab/stockroom manager for Chemistry and have maintained a secure stockroom now for the past 10 years. We have a new department chair and he wants to give access to all permanent, visiting, and adjunct faculty. I feel that this is a mistake but have to give evidence to support my reluctance of open access. Is there any regulations that I can quote about securing the stockroom? I know at one time Homeland Security sent an e-mail to our CPO and other CFOs about securing these areas. Any assistance you can give me would be greatly appreciated.



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