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Hunt, Alessandra <alehunt**At_Symbol_Here**MSU.EDU>
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Re: [DCHAS-L] Three new articles for ACS Chemical Health & Safety are available online.
Date:
Aug 30, 2022 09:44 UTC
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ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
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While I really appreciated people describing their accidents and often use those accounts for learning how to “do better”, I am glad to see all these follow-up messages on this article. While reading it in the wee-hours of the morning I
was left with so many questions:
- What is up with that mask in the article? Is that a hole in the center? And how can a N90 be recommended for an organic vapor protection?
- “Sprinkle ammonia around the bottle”. So you purposedly create a spill?
- A really interesting but scary point they make: “The reaction should be worked up carefully,
and the filtrate should be properly disposed of outside the lab rather than thrown into the basin because unreacted acryloyl chloride may cause problems for lab mates (eye irritation and suffocation) (not mentioned in SDS).”
I hope here that the “disposed outside the lab” means being picked up by a company for proper disposal.
- The most important question in my opinion: Was this article peer-reviewed?
Alessandra
From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
On Behalf Of Jessica Martin
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2022 5:51 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Three new articles for ACS Chemical Health & Safety are available online.
Jack,
I think that is a REALLY good idea. I think it would be fantastic if you wrote a strong counter-article to this article.
Best,
NSF Graduate Research Fellow (2018-2021)
Joint Safety Team, Founding Member (2018-2021)
Pinkhassik Group, Department of Chemistry (2016-2021)
University of Connecticut
"Anger is temporary - and often useful.
But the project is forever!
Seriously - this thing is never going to end is it?”
*Message sent from a system outside of UConn.*
My colleagues and I have been discussing the same thing. We plan to write a thorough analysis. Suffice to say that we do not agree with some of the methods and recommendations contained within the paper.
Research Safety Specialist, Assistant Chemical Hygiene Officer
Environmental Health & Safety
484 Oak Road, Stanford, CA, 94305
I acknowledge that the land on which I live and work is the ancestral and unceded land of the Muwekma
Ohlone Tribe. As an uninvited guest on these lands, I am a beneficiary of the ongoing displacement of the Ohlone people. I pay my respects to the Native peoples, past and present.
That acryloyl chloride paper is the first one I’ve seen for the upcoming special issue on sharing incidents. I hope it’s intended to showcase the very beginning
of the journey from ”blame to gain” because, after bemoaning the propensity for investigations to blame the victim and fail to identify underlying causes it seems to conclude that the incident occurred because the victim failed to wear their PPE (when none
of the indicated PPE seems appropriate for protecting against inhalation of acryloyl chloride, assuming there was even any acryloyl chloride remaining in the reaction mixture when the exposure occurred)…
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Christopher M. Kolodziej, Ph.D.
Chemical Hygiene Officer
My working hours may not be your working hours. Please do not feel obligated to reply outside of your normal work schedule.
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