Safety Emporium eyewashes
Safety Emporium eyewashes

Interactive Learning Paradigms, Incorporated

DCHAS-L Discussion List Archive

About This Archive  |   DCHAS-L 2022 Index   |   DCHAS-L Yearly Index   |   DCHAS-L Home Page

About This Archive

DCHAS-L 2022 Index

DCHAS-L Yearly Index

DCHAS-L Home Page


Previous by Date

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Hats in lab

Date: Sep 1, 2022 05:55 UTC

Author: Hugo Schmidt <hgschmidt**At_Symbol_Here**GMX.COM>

Next by Date

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Acetone recycling system recommendation

Date: Sep 1, 2022 14:08 UTC

Author: Jeff Tenney <jtenney46**At_Symbol_Here**ATT.NET>

From: Garry Haacke <Garry.Haacke**At_Symbol_Here**GORDON.EDU>

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Hats in lab

Date: Sep 1, 2022 13:16 UTC

Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>

Message-ID: <DM4PR01MB788410D69038F41DFA17728EEB7B9**At_Symbol_Here**DM4PR01MB7884.prod.exchangelabs.com>

In-Reply-To: <trinity-061ee38b-89b3-4267-b6e2-28589ce2d852-1662011699990@3c-app-mailcom-bs12>

Demystify: 

Very interesting discussion.

 

Hats off to all participants!!

 

Prof. Garry Haacke

Science Division Lab Manager

Gordon College

Wenham, MA 01984

 

Garry.haacke**At_Symbol_Here**gordon.edu

Office: 978 867 4124

Mobile: 617 872 8596

 

From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU> On Behalf Of Hugo Schmidt
Sent: Thursday, September 1, 2022 1:55 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Hats in lab

 

** CAUTION: External Email: Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize sender and know content is safe.**

 

My two cents on this: be careful.  If there isn't a good reason to remove it, you could find yourself having to answer why culturally determined headcoverings - hijabs, turbans etc. - are okay.

 

Hugo 

 

 

Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2022 at 9:59 PM
From: "Monona Rossol" <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**LISTS.PRINCETON.EDU>
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Hats in lab

By their brims ye shall judge them.  Monona

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeffrey Lewin <jclewin**At_Symbol_Here**MTU.EDU>
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU
Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2022 9:44 am
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Hats in lab
 

You can actually buy a Vulcan® Cowboy Style Hard Hat.  I second having a private conversation with the student...but it does beg the question if you ask that student to remove their cowboy hat should you ask anyone wearing a trucker's/baseball style cap to remove it as well....and when does a hat get "too big?"  Presumably you don't want people wearing sombreros in the lab?

 

Jeff

 

 

On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 9:30 AM Shawn Helmueller <schelmueller**At_Symbol_Here**gmail.com> wrote:

Another approach if it’s determined that the safety risk is low relative to other common headdress is this, no one in industry is going to tell the CEO or CSO they can’t wear a cowboy hat in their own lab. As long as he’s on pace for exceptional performance in the class maybe the hat can stay??

 

I’m quibbling a bit, lab safety is paramount and your lab conditions may be unique. But students can respond well to low risk challenges like this, and it could serve as a valuable authentic experience he remembers long after leaving your class. 

 

Regards,

Shawn Helmueller

 

On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 8:58 AM Gilman, Lisa <00001730fb194cb8-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**lists.princeton.edu> wrote:

Hi Nora:

 

 I agree with Richard. Peripheral vision is not likely to be blocked by a cowboy hat. Laboratory work with Hard Hats/Full Face shields/Baseball caps have never been an issue in our laboratory here in Montana. If students are in such close proximity that the hat is an issue, in my opinion, you have a class density that is more of a safety concern and much more important to address than a cowboy hat.

 

I would simply ask the student in a private conversation to remove his hat during the laboratory class. Keep it simple. Your concern about knocking over glassware or reagents is an appropriate reason if he asks for one.

 

Lisa Gilman

Silver Bow Montana

IND - Environment Rehabilitation

T (406) 782-1215

 

 

Mailing Address:

PO Box 3146

Butte MT 59702-3146

 

Physical Location:

 

On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 6:35 AM Richard Palluzi <000006c59248530b-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**lists.princeton.edu> wrote:

Hats, mostly baseball caps or knit caps, are very common in industry in my experience. Hard hats are also very common in plant labs both for visitors and often for folks who are in and about a lot. Cowboy hats are pretty rare. I have never heard of an accident. 

 

On Aug 30, 2022 2:09 PM, Nora Dunkel <noradunkel51**At_Symbol_Here**WEBSTER.EDU> wrote:

Does anyone have guidance on wearing hats in lab?  An instructor for sophomore organic chemistry at my institution reports that a student has repeatedly come to lab wearing a cowboy hat.  The student is otherwise appropriately dressed, but we wonder about visibility (will the student's peripheral vision be obstructed?), whether people might bump into the hat, and whether the hat might knock over glassware.  (It's a pretty crowded room when everybody is setting up their apparatus.)

 

Is this something others have encountered?  Are hats in lab acceptable from a safety perspective?   

 

Nora Dunkel, CHMM

Chemical Safety Officer--Webster University

ISB/Browning Hall 314

314-246-2244 (desk)

661-348-1445 (cell)

--- For more information about the DCHAS-L e-mail list, contact the Divisional membership chair at membership**At_Symbol_Here**dchas.org Follow us on Twitter @acsdchas

--- For more information about the DCHAS-L e-mail list, contact the Divisional membership chair at membership**At_Symbol_Here**dchas.org Follow us on Twitter @acsdchas


This message and any attachments is intended for the named addressee(s) only and may contain information that is privileged and/or confidential. If you receive this message in error, please delete it and immediately notify the sender. Any copying, dissemination or disclosure, either whole or partial, by a person who is not the named addressee is prohibited. We use virus scanning software but disclaim any liability for viruses or other devices which remain in this message or any attachments.
*******************************
Ce message, ainsi que toute piece jointe, est exclusivement adresse au(x) destinataire(s) nomme(s) et peut contenir des informations confidentielles. Si vous recevez ce message par erreur, merci de le detruire et d'en avertir immediatement l'emetteur. Toute copie, transmission ou divulgation, integrale ou partielle, par une personne qui n'est pas nommee comme destinataire est interdite. Nous utilisons un logiciel anti-virus mais nous denions toute responsabilite au cas ou des virus, ou tout autre procede, seraient contenus dans ce message ou toute piece jointe. --- For more information about the DCHAS-L e-mail list, contact the Divisional membership chair at membership**At_Symbol_Here**dchas.org Follow us on Twitter @acsdchas

--

Please excuse any errors. Message sent from my mobile phone.

--- For more information about the DCHAS-L e-mail list, contact the Divisional membership chair at membership**At_Symbol_Here**dchas.org Follow us on Twitter @acsdchas

 

 

--

Jeff Lewin

Director of Chemical Laboratory Operations

Research Integrity Office

Laboratory Operations

205 Lakeshore Center 

Michigan Technological University

 

--- For more information about the DCHAS-L e-mail list, contact the Divisional membership chair at membership**At_Symbol_Here**dchas.org Follow us on Twitter @acsdchas

--- For more information about the DCHAS-L e-mail list, contact the Divisional membership chair at membership**At_Symbol_Here**dchas.org Follow us on Twitter @acsdchas

--- For more information about the DCHAS-L e-mail list, contact the Divisional membership chair at membership**At_Symbol_Here**dchas.org Follow us on Twitter @acsdchas

Previous post  |  Top of Page  |  Next post