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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Maitland Jones story
Date: Oct 13, 2022 18:50 UTC
Author: James Kaufman <jkaufman**At_Symbol_Here**LABSAFETYINSTITUTE.ORG>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Maitland Jones story
Date: Oct 13, 2022 19:19 UTC
Author: James Kaufman <jkaufman**At_Symbol_Here**LABSAFETYINSTITUTE.ORG>
From: pzavon**At_Symbol_Here**ROCHESTER.RR.COM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Maitland Jones story
Date: Oct 13, 2022 19:10 UTC
Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
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This is appalling!
The only college-level chemistry course I took was in a summer session before beginning graduate school. The final third was organic chemistry. I retain very little of that BUT. . .
On my first full-time permanent job on the health and safety staff of a well-known research university, at the university store I bought a thin book on chemical nomenclature. It entirely addressed organic nomenclature. I read through it in a month or so. It was clear as day and readily preserved in memory. While never attempting chemical manipulations, I have always been able to follow the nomenclature in safety related discussions, at the least.
Peter Zavon, MS, CIH
Penfield, NY
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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU> On Behalf Of Niteen Vaidya
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 9:09 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Maitland Jones story
I am Organic PHD, during my first year at University of Georgia , professor was teaching us Organic Nomanclature as part of the course, but he said you supposed to know it so every monday eve. he would give us a test and we get C and above we would not have to take the final exam, so he tried for several weeks, nobody pass so finally he said OK give me a test in Organic naming and of course he failed so everybody pass the course.
On Wednesday, October 12, 2022 at 05:11:19 PM PDT, Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**lists.princeton.edu> wrote:
I'm proud of a D in second year Organic Chemistry. It was 1957 and I had an A in first semester Organic but during that year Sputnik was launched. We could see it beeping its way over us every night. Our professor thought the reason the Russians beat us is we were not turning out smart enough students. He gave us a final exam from hell. The class was somewhere around 125 students in that large main lecture hall when we hunkered over the arm rest desks to take the test. The professor gave out 1 A, 2 Bs, 3Cs and 5 Ds. Everyone else got a F. Most students went to the dean and got the grade changed, but I treasured that D because I knew what it meant.
It's the professor's call. And it's still on my transcript.
Monona
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From: Michael <mabuczynski**At_Symbol_Here**HOTMAIL.COM>
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU
Sent: Wed, Oct 12, 2022 6:10 pm
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Maitland Jones story
Since when do students have the right to say a prof or course is toooo hard. I think it may be the caliber of student today. Back in my undergraduate days I had a prof for Advanced Organic Chemistry whose curriculum seemed to all of us that it was like a post grad class. Struggled and just missed a B in this class. Some 15 years ago I ran into that Professor at an outing of sorts and I told him how hard his class was and what my grade was. To my surprise he said now I would have an A+ as the current crop of students are very lacking. chemistry. Good luck to those students in the real world of fast moving innovation for success!!!!!!! Too Hard
Michael Buczynski
Principal/Owner
PSCR SERVICES LLC.
From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU> on behalf of Doug Walters <waltersdbw**At_Symbol_Here**GMAIL.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2022 4:21 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Maitland Jones story
Thank you Neal for sharing this and carrying on the thread.
I suspect many of us have experienced similar situations, both as students and as teachers.
Doug Walters, Ph.D., FACS
Retired
“Let’s not lose our heads about this."
Probably said by French chemist Antoine de Lavoisier ~ 1794