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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] telephone requirement question

Date: Oct 21, 2022 17:37 UTC

Author: John Callen <jbcallen**At_Symbol_Here**GMAIL.COM>

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Date: Oct 21, 2022 21:15 UTC

Author: Jonathan Klane <jklane1**At_Symbol_Here**ASU.EDU>

From: Jessica Martin <jessica.a.martin**At_Symbol_Here**UCONN.EDU>

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] telephone requirement question

Date: Oct 21, 2022 18:04 UTC

Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>

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Demystify: 
John,

You lived in an apartment that required tenants to have landlines? I have many family members and friends (myself included) living in apartments who dumped their landlines 20 years ago and never looked back. This is the first I’ve ever heard of an apartment requiring a tenant to have a landline. You learn something new every day!

Jessica A. Martin, Ph.D.
NSF Graduate Research Fellow (2018-2021)
Joint Safety Team, Founding Member (2018-2021)
Pinkhassik Group, Department of Chemistry (2016-2021)
University of Connecticut
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On Oct 21, 2022, at 1:37 PM, John Callen <jbcallen**At_Symbol_Here**gmail.com> wrote:


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Monona & Jessica,

At least I don’t have to worry about my cell phone service.  Under my Verizon 5G Plan, I am not connected  to the physical land transmission towers of either The Willis (formerly known as The Sears) or The 757 N. Michigan Avenue (formerly known as The John Hancock) Buildings in Chicago but rather The Kuiper Satellites in the Low Earth Orbit System.  My Apartment Building no longer requires tenants to have land lines. 

Good Luck!

John B. Callen, PhD


On Oct 21, 2022, at 10:08, Monona Rossol <0000030664c37427-dmarc-request**At_Symbol_Here**lists.princeton.edu> wrote:


One of the reasons the landlines are required in major corporations or buildings here in NYC is when the power went out over the whole area, workers in the City could not leave after work to pick up their kids at school or do any of their normally scheduled tasks.  They couldn't reach their children; their children couldn't reach them.  There were thousands of truly desperate and inconsolable people that night in the city.  The only phones that worked were the real land lines.  

Since ACTS is listed as an emergency service for cultural institutions, we maintain that landline.  

Nothing is perfect.  When Sandy hit, the 21 foot water surge flooded the 13th street transfer station which predictably exploded.  So my advice is to have landlines, cell phones, and your computer email which was the only good communication in lower Manhattan on 9/11.  Since not only cell phones but TV stations mostly transmitted from the top of the WTC, we only had one snowy station to watch in horror.

Monona




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From: Jessica Martin <jessica.a.martin**At_Symbol_Here**UCONN.EDU>
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU
Sent: Fri, Oct 21, 2022 8:19 am
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] telephone requirement question

In addition to what everyone else has said here, I would also think they would want to test coverage EXTENSIVELY before they do. We had MANY weak and or dead zones for cell reception in the chemistry building in which I did my graduate work. One of the worst dead zones was the 1st level - where our main stockroom was. I am actually a little horrified when I hear that other campuses have chosen to remove the landlines from their buildings.

Jessica A. Martin, Ph.D.
NSF Graduate Research Fellow (2018-2021)
Joint Safety Team, Founding Member (2018-2021)
Pinkhassik Group, Department of Chemistry (2016-2021)
University of Connecticut
323-327-3974

ACS CHAS PEER-LED WORKSHOPS

The Workshop ACS CHAS RAMP in the Research Lab is being held next on November 5, 2022!
Follow this link for more information and to register: https://rampintheresearchlab.eventbrite.com

The Workshop ACS CHAS Empowering Academic Researchers to Strengthen Safety Culture is being held next on March 5, 2023!
Follow this link for more information and to register: https://LSTWorkshopMarch2023.eventbrite.com

On Oct 20, 2022, at 9:07 AM, Ralph Stuart <ralph**At_Symbol_Here**RSTUARTCIH.ORG> wrote:

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[Bold my emphasis] EPA believes that, although cell phones are a useful means of communication, they should not be relied upon solely to satisfy this requirement. The Agency is therefore finalizing § 262.16(b)(8)(iv) and § 262.254 as proposed.

Thanks for this summary; I believe that was the situation the last time I looked into it and would be surprised if it changed. I ended up putting “No Smoking” signs on 12 chemical cabinets under fume hoods that are used as waste storage areas last year, even though indoor smoking has been banned on campus for at least 20 years...

- Ralph

Ralph Stuart, CIH, CCHO
ralph**At_Symbol_Here**rstuartcih.org

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