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Subject: [DCHAS-L] ACS Chemical Health and Safety Awards
Date: Nov 10, 2022 21:31 UTC
Author: Chance, Brandon <awards**At_Symbol_Here**DCHAS.ORG>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] [Safety3] [NAOSMM] Re: [DCHAS-L] How to Use a Fire Blanket – 9 Simple Steps
Date: Nov 10, 2022 21:51 UTC
Author: James Kaufman <jkaufman**At_Symbol_Here**LABSAFETYINSTITUTE.ORG>
From: pzavon**At_Symbol_Here**ROCHESTER.RR.COM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] [Safety3] [NAOSMM] Re: [DCHAS-L] How to Use a Fire Blanket – 9 Simple Steps
Date: Nov 10, 2022 21:36 UTC
Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
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“A hand drench unit which also functions as an eyewash . . .”
It seems to me that a hand drench unit cannot function as an eyewash because an eyewash must be able to be used without either hand to keep it going or to keep it aimed correctly. Someone using an eyewash needs to be able to use both hands to hold the eyelids open against strong reflex.
Peter Zavon, MS, CIH
Penfield, NY
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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU> On Behalf Of Richard Palluzi
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2022 12:25 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] [Safety3] [NAOSMM] Re: [DCHAS-L] How to Use a Fire Blanket – 9 Simple Steps
Putting out a fire on a person’s clothing is always problematical at best.
Most people – the author included – are just as likely to panic as remember their training. As an old instructor once told me “stop, drop and roll” should really be “stop them, drop them, and roll them” because of this. Getting someone trained and willing to drop someone on fire (because they are panicking and not listening) is very hard. We worry we might hurt them and the potential consequences if we do. Sad to say but if the thought “might I be liable if they get hurt because I pushed them down?” does not cross your mind you must have just emerged from living in a bomb shelter since the 50’s. And even a minute or two of hesitation can make the injury a lot worse.
The best mitigation is, of course, preventing the fire in the first place. For that the hazard analysis and risk identification requirements suggested in NFPA 45 are very useful. Provide a detailed assessment before you do anything. Provide appropriate protective equipment. Put high temperature shut downs on any heated equipment.
Fire resistant lab coats are another good mitigative measure.
A hand drench unit which also functions as an eyewash is very useful as you can try and get the person near the unit and use it to drench the fire. A safety shower is another excellent measure but getting someone under one when they are panicked is also not the easiest. Plus all the other issues with using a safety shower properly.
My thoughts for what they are worth.
Richard Palluzi
BE(ChE), ME(ChE), PE, CSP,FAIChE
Pilot plant and laboratory consulting, safety, design, reviews, and training
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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU> On Behalf Of Paul Burnett
Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2022 11:20 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] [Safety3] [NAOSMM] Re: [DCHAS-L] How to Use a Fire Blanket – 9 Simple Steps
Newly manufactured fire blankets have not contained asbestos for decades.
And how long does it take to do “Stop, drop and roll” training?
Paul**At_Symbol_Here**PaulBurnett.com - Sent from my iPhone 11
On Nov 10, 2022, at 7:16 AM, Lowell Kellogg <kelloggl**At_Symbol_Here**matc.edu> wrote: