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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Phones in research labs

Date: Jan 11, 2023 17:16 UTC

Author: Margaret Rakas <mrakas**At_Symbol_Here**SMITH.EDU>

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Phones in research labs

Date: Jan 11, 2023 21:00 UTC

Author: pzavon**At_Symbol_Here**ROCHESTER.RR.COM

From: Ralph Stuart <ralph**At_Symbol_Here**RSTUARTCIH.ORG>

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Phones in research labs

Date: Jan 11, 2023 19:36 UTC

Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>

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Demystify: 

> >I don't see how activating the fire alarm going to help someone with a seizure, or a heart attack. Much less a chemical exposure where they've had to use the safety shower.
>
At our school, any pull station alarm will bring a variety of responders, including professionals to help with all of the scenarios you raise. The important point you raise is that each jurisidiction will have different emergency response resources and protocols, so an answer to the “do (research) labs need phones" will require a local risk assessment similar to those for ventilation requirements, lab safety training and oversight, and PPE.

I suspect that this is the reason that a wise person added the “P” step to RAMP paradigm - this is one more element than I was taught as an industrial hygienist in training in the 1980’s. (The paradigm of the time was Recognize, Evaluate and Control, with no need for emergency planning).

- Ralph

Ralph Stuart, CIH, CCHO
ralph**At_Symbol_Here**rstuartcih.org

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