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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Lessons Learned: Nitrogen Dewar Tip-over Incident

Date: Mar 17, 2023 18:47 UTC

Author: Samuella Sigmann <sigmannsb**At_Symbol_Here**RETIRED.APPSTATE.EDU>

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Subject: [DCHAS-L] A new article for ACS Chemical Health & Safety is available online.

Date: Mar 20, 2023 10:50 UTC

Author: Ralph Stuart <ralph**At_Symbol_Here**RSTUARTCIH.ORG>

From: Andrew Nelson <andrew-w-nelson**At_Symbol_Here**UIOWA.EDU>

Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] How well known is the Sheri Sangji case outside of the U.S. from your perspective?

Date: Mar 18, 2023 13:27 UTC

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Demystify: 
Jon,

We talk about this case and that of Karen Wetterhahn in some our trainings in Africa, Middle East, South Asia, South East Asia. Neither appear to be well known to many individuals I work with—but i don’t have any pre/post data to back that up. Academics much more likely to have heard of it compared to industry audiences.

Bhopal incident seems to be universally known. The seveso incident, people haven’t necessarily heard of the incident but know of the regs that followed. BP horizon and Beirut explosion are more recent incidents many people have heard of. 

If you want to discuss international trainings on chemical management, please reach out. My team travels extensively and works almost exclusively with international audiences.

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Best,
-andy 

On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 11:38 Harrison, Paul <pharriso**At_Symbol_Here**mcmaster.ca> wrote:
Certainly most faculty in Canada would know of this case.  But I would venture to suggest that many current students and post-docs would be too young to know of it unless it came up in training.  Thus I think it is important to remind students of this tragic case. Unfortunately I have seen a student really shaking with fear when handling tBuLi (even before the Sangji case) which really doesn't help any more than the overly gung-ho student, so I prefer to aim for developing a healthy respect for all chemicals.

Best,
Paul

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From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU> on behalf of Jonathan Klane <jklane1**At_Symbol_Here**ASU.EDU>
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Subject: [DCHAS-L] How well known is the Sheri Sangji case outside of the U.S. from your perspective?
 
Hello DCHAS folks,

While drafting some content a question came up.  Based on this content below, how well would lab folks outside of the States recognize the name Sheri Sangji? 

"Silanes, lithium, and others are pyrophoric - they react in air and spontaneously combust. A fire caused by tert-butyllithium is what killed Sheri Sangji at UCLA in 2008 from extensive burns."

Would they say/think, "Who is that?" or would they say/think, "Oh yes, I know of this sad case." ?

If you're outside of the States or engage with lab folks internationally, I'd be curious on what you/they would say.

While I've worked closely and chatted frequently with international grad students here at U.S. institutions, I'm hesitant to generalize those U.S.-based chats and context to others outside of the U.S.

Thanks,
Jon

Jonathan Klane, M.S.Ed., CIH, CSP, CHMM, CIT
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