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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Updates from the Spring Council Meeting

Date: Mar 26, 2024 22:04 UTC

Author: Russ Phifer <rphifer**At_Symbol_Here**WCENVIRONMENTAL.COM>

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] CHAS-ETHX-PROF safety & ethics symposium

Date: Mar 27, 2024 14:00 UTC

Author: James Kaufman <jkaufman**At_Symbol_Here**LABSAFETYINSTITUTE.ORG>

From: Benjamin Ruekberg <bruekberg**At_Symbol_Here**URI.EDU>

Subject: [DCHAS-L] Fire extinguisher training

Date: Mar 27, 2024 12:47 UTC

Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>

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Demystify: 
Hello,

I was wondering how the group members feel about fire extinguisher training as a part of safety training in undergraduate laboratory courses.

A recent article in Journal of Chemical Education (DOI:10.1021/acs.jchemed.3c012990) indicated that approximately 45% of undergraduates were given fire extinguisher training as part of their chemistry laboratory safety training.

While this is useful knowledge in general, it does not seem relevant to undergraduate chemical safety training.  In case of a fire, students should not attempt to put out the fire, but rather turn off electricity and gas for their experiments (conditions permitting), pull the fire alarm, and evacuate the building.  It might well be argued that training in the use of fire extinguishers could be interpreted by some students as encouragement to use a fire extinguisher to fight a laboratory fire--constituting a training in unsafe behavior.

Thus, it would seem that the time spent in fire extinguisher training would be much better spent on important safety issues.

That is just my opinion regarding only undergraduate courses, not necessarily undergraduate or graduate research.  Am I missing something or do CHAS members agree?

Thank you very much,

Ben
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