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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Feedback wanted: New safety lockout device for laboratories
Date: May 30, 2024 18:00 UTC
Author: davivid <davivid**At_Symbol_Here**WELL.COM>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Feedback wanted: New safety lockout device for laboratories
Date: May 30, 2024 23:29 UTC
Author: Info <info**At_Symbol_Here**ILPI.COM>
From: Chainani, Edward Torres <echaina2**At_Symbol_Here**ILLINOIS.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Modular cleanroom in a chemistry research lab
Date: May 30, 2024 19:57 UTC
Reply-To: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
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Hi, Bruce—
The goals for the cleanroom wet lab with the fume hood were to meet requirements for a reduced particle count for the fabrication processes as well as protect the occupants from
chemical exposure. I apologize if I wasn’t clear about that.
The issue has now been resolved: After several discussions with the lab designer, this morning they were finally able to explain to our satisfaction why a
softwall modular cleanroom is not appropriate for this application. We learned that our campus’ interpretation of ASHRAE 62.1 was more stringent with regards to the air class of a lab that is fitted with a fume hood. Campus Facilities considers this
particular cleanroom within the larger lab to be a distinct space with Class 3 air, since it has its own fume hoods and chemical hazards (in ASHRAE 62.1, the entire lab would be considered Class 2). Because of the Class 3 air designation and the fact that
campus considers these as two separate spaces rather than one, a wet lab/cleanroom design that transfers air from the cleanroom space to the larger lab space would not be allowed because recirculation or transfer of Class 3 air to another space is not permitted.
Thus a hardwall cleanroom with dedicated air supply through HEPA filters and dedicated exhaust is necessary to contain the air and maintain the pressure relationships with the adjacent lab space. In fact, the lab designer had to revise their previous design
to add a vestibule to the cleanroom in order to ensure the proper air flow and pressurization between the two spaces.
Thank you, Bruce, and also to David EldrEdge who also responded.
Regards,
Ed
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ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU> on behalf of Bruce Van Scoy <bvanscoy**At_Symbol_Here**TWC.COM>
Date: Thursday, May 30, 2024 at 10:23 AM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Modular cleanroom in a chemistry research lab
Ed,
I have never hood of HEPA filtered organic/inorganic contaminated air being recirculated back into a lab space. The hard or soft wall containment is relevant only to the particulates
controlled to meet the cleanroom requirements, while disregarding the chemical hazards from a wet lab using volatile organics.
The focus needs to be on what you are trying to control while applying the hierarchy of controls. Hard or soft walls are irrelevant outside of the fume hoods containment requirements.
I strongly recommend you hire a CIH, or at the very minimum a CSP. I think you need someone familiar with ACGIH’s Ventilation Manuals (yes, now there are 2 – used to be one). They are worth their weight in gold during the design phase if the person applying
them knows how to apply them.
Getting back to your initial question, a HEPA filtration system will ensure you are free of particulates. I recommend the consideration of all hazards, by all routes of exposure.
What is the reason to remove particulates with a HEPA filter when vapors from a fume hood are being exhausted into the labs?
The solvent/solute wet lab chemicals mentioned are well known in a wet chemistry lab. But they all, have well known exposure routes, control, and exposure limits.
What are the primary principals for the controls, particle reduction to protect the process or human exposure? Shouldn’t you be able to meet both?
Just asking.
BruceV
From: ACS Division of Chemical Health and Safety <DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU>
On Behalf Of Chainani, Edward To
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2024 5:03 PM
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**Princeton.EDU
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Modular cleanroom in a chemistry research lab
Hi, everyone
We have new researcher who would like to have a cleanroom installed inside their research lab, so that a portion of the lab is a relatively particle-free environment (ISO 7). They believe this can be achieved
with a softwall modular cleanroom such as this one: https://www.terrauniversal.com/cleanroom-softwall-extended-valuline-6600-66-vl-1214.html
The remainder of the lab space (i.e. outside of the modular cleanroom) is a wet chemistry lab with its own fume hood. There will be some chemical use inside the cleanroom, which will have also have its own
fume hood inside of it. Volatile chemicals to be used (and are common to both cleanroom and the rest of the lab) will be acetone, isopropyl alcohol, heptane and toluene, which will be all handled inside the respective fume hoods. The modular softwall cleanroom
would take the air from the lab and pass it through HEPA filters using the ceiling-mounted fan filter units (FFUs), and push it through the cleanroom space and back out into the lab underneath the vinyl curtains.
We’ve run into an issue where the lab designer will not accept the idea of using modular softwall cleanroom, claiming that per ASHRAE 62.1, Class 3 air (air with significant contamination) cannot be recirculated,
even to another Class 3 air space. They are proposing a hard wall cleanroom with a separate ventilation zone from the rest of the lab, supplying the cleanroom with HEPA-filtered, conditioned outside air to keep it a positively pressurized space w.r.t. the
lab. A fraction of the air will be recirculated back into the cleanroom through the HEPA filter, and the remainder of the exhausted air being sent out of the building’s lab exhaust stack.
I looked up Table 6-1 in ASHRAE 62.1, which lists "university/college laboratories” as having Class 2 air (air with moderate contamination), and not Class 3. It is not clear to me if "university/college laboratories”
refers solely to instructional labs, or if it includes research laboratories. The difference being is that Class 2 air can be recirculated to other Class 2 or Class 3 spaces. It seems to me that the entire lab, including the cleanroom within it, would be
a single volume of air, which in any case is ventilated to 6 air changes per hour, per ventilation requirements for a lab.have n
My questions:
Thank you!
Regards,
Ed
Edward Chainani, Ph.D.
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