All: I've stayed out of this somewhat but must at least enter now. I have been a member of several professional organizations throughout the year including ACS, ASSE, and ASQ and many local one. I additionally keep in contact with other organizations (too numerous mention). While I'm not currently a member of ASSE, I still keep in touch and recently provided the information to have our safety department representative begin attending. The fact is, most people will not join a whole gamut of organizations. They simply do not have the time. Indeed, many who are a member of even 1 do not get greatly involved (e.g. serving on boards, committees, legislative initiatives, etc.) Many people do not seek opportunities outside of these organizations to serve. There are ALWAYS opportunities to serve both in professional and in various venues. I am not going to disparage the persons of this group for not knowing about what is going on everywhere else. It is sad that some made the choice to "mock" Mr. Safety Man. We can all learn from those who have different backgrounds and all become stronger for it. Asking questions is the best way to find out information that a person just doesn't have the data to back up their opinions. This forum has many persons who will help to answer (even when there is a difference in interpretation of the facts). That is not to say this forum has all the answers. Should they check out other sources?...ABSOLUTELY! If one is answering as an authority (not opinions) then be sure to have the data to back up your claim. Keep in mind that unless you've been working with certain data and/or keeping up on changes, your data may be somewhat or completely out of date. I appreciate the knowledge I have gained being a part of professional organizations, from forums, and from the multitude of persons in my network. Please, lets maintain the civility that should come with the title "Professional." -----Original Message----- From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of mrsafetyman**At_Symbol_Here**juno.com Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 6:26 PM To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Visorgogs As a safety professional I am concerned that this interest was not displayed during the appropriate times. The ASSE, American Society of Safety Engineers closely works with ANSI and OSHA during the development phases of new rules and codes. They both usually allow due notice and ample time to respond to issues. Where was this organiztion then??? There is certainly a huge difference of interests between this chemical society and the ASSE. It is really amazing that a comment about someones lack of professional experitise about a safety issue could elicite so many responses that the ansi standard already covers. In fact the ASSE held an open response forum on this issue last year prior to its implementation. Are these responses genuine or in fact a response to a legitimate challenge. This is also the last time I will respond or play part in this network. There is a definite gap between what this organizations interests are and the Safety field. For those who are so educated, the responses are defensive and childish. When I responded last year about the new eyewear standard implementation, a few Good Old Chemical Group Boys and Girls mocked my comments even though I was right on the standard implementation dates. I am glad I will not be part of this ego network. I will now return to important safety issues somewhere else. Oh by the way please keep up to date on the standards, proposed changes, and implementation of in the future. I'm outa here!!!!
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