Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 01:16:44 EDT
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From: Jim Kaufman <Labsafe**At_Symbol_Here**AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: Getting to Lab Employees
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The Laboratory Safety Institute has enjoyed significant success in help
academic institutions address this particularly thorny issue.  In the session on
Employee Involvement, we talk about the "101 ways to convince people that safety
is important and that you are serious about it."

One approach that we have found to be quite effective is the "Windsock."  It
tells you the direction and strength of the wind.  The windsock doesn't tell
you how to behave.  But if you take the time to look at it, you can learn two
things that help you (if you are a pilot) that help you to fly more safely.  Be
a lab safety windsock.  Don't tell people how to behave.  Help them to
understand the direction and strength of the wind.

Give clear examples of people who are dead or crippled doing what your "lab
folks" do.  Let them decide who they want to grow up like.

It should not be your job to "get them to comply."  Let that be their
"supervisor's" job.

Good Luck ... Jim

PS.  "Never try to teach a pig to sing.  It wastes your time and annoys the

In a message dated 7/20/2005 12:02:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
LISTSERV**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU writes:

> Date:   Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:48:30 EDT
> From:   Bernie Gable 
> Subject: Getting to Lab Employees
> Hello - Many of us know that sometimes getting Lab folks to follow safety
> rules can be a challenge. I've heard "I'm a scientist - I know what not to
> do"
> and "Those rules don't apply to me". Other than disciplinary procedures,
> does
> anyone have any suggestions for talking to lab personnel in their own
> language
> to get them to comply? All advice welcome! - Bernie

James A. Kaufman, Ph.D.

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