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Subject: Confusing risk message?
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 07:53:08 -0800
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Subject: Re: Confusing risk message?
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:45:45 -0600
Author: Diane Amell


Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 14:42:51 EST
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From: Jim Kaufman <Labsafe**At_Symbol_Here**AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: ANSI standard
Comments: To: cavanaughmm**At_Symbol_Here**appstate.edu
 
 
Hi Mary,
 
I guess that's one possibility.  But I'd rather hear it directly from  the 
author and not presume to guess.  So many people (as you note) get it  wrong in 
a wide variety of ways that I feel more comfortable just asking for a  
clarification.
 
I'm on vacation so nothing is going to get me going.  I'm so laid back  that 
all I see here in Germany is the ceiling .
 
I'm still in favor of the snap, crackle, pop approach to eye  protection.  
... Jim
 
In a message dated 12/20/2005 11:19:05 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
cavanaughmm**At_Symbol_Here**appstate.edu writes:

Whether  he stated the contents of the ANSI standard exactly correctly or
not, I bet  I know exactly what he's talking about here.  What he's saying is
the  catalogue said "meets ANSI Z87.1 for eye protection".  I see ads  like
this all the time and I'm sure the rest of you do too.

Combine  vague or even misleading ads, inadequate labeling requirements (I
know  that'll get you going Jim, since we've disagree on that issue before!),
and  inadequate training, and you've got the all-too-common occurrence of
people  wearing safety glasses for chemical splash protection.  

And note  that "education" does not = "training".  Some of the most  difficult
cases I've had in convincing that glasses can't be substituted  for goggles
are my PhD's (and some of them still pull the splash plugs out  rather than
switch to fog-free goggles that I've painstakingly researched  and made sure
the dept offers....sigh...) 

Mary M. Cavanaugh,  CIH
phone  828.262.6838
email   cavanaughmm**At_Symbol_Here**appstate.edu

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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] ANSI standard

In a  message dated 12/20/2005 12:02:23 A.M. Eastern Standard  Time,
LISTSERV**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU writes:

They  simply tell me that  the science catalog indicated the safety glasses
met the  ANSI Z87.1  standard-not knowing it is an impact standard only. 

I'm not sure I  understood what you meant here.  ... Jim

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