Date: Sun, 1 Oct 2006 09:03:51 -0500
Reply-To: Georjean Adams <gla**At_Symbol_Here**EHSSTRATEGIES.COM>
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From: Georjean Adams <gla**At_Symbol_Here**EHSSTRATEGIES.COM>
Subject: Re: Chemical Lists
Comments: To: Russ Phifer
In-Reply-To: <002501c6e3f3$cb0ad280$1106a8c0**At_Symbol_Here**RUSS>

I used to be with a member of the American Chemistry Council (ACC) and
thought I'd see what they were doing with their product stewardship programs
on this issue.  You may want to get in touch with your local chemical
associations and firms to see if they can help you.  Here's the reply:

ACC has in fact recently started partnership discussions with EPA's Schools
Chemical Cleanout Campaign (SC3), and I've been told that SC3 has approached
ACS regarding same.  We're working towards a late 2006/early 2007 public
partnership unveiling between SC3 and many DC trade associations (have not
yet seen a comprehensive list), but in the short term, we're working
together on a public service announcement and article to run in the Nov/Dec
issue of American Chemistry that will highlight the work two of our member
companies (Roche Colorado and Dow) have already done at the local and
regional level to support the program (the program has been around for quite
some time at the local and regional level, but is just now working towards a
national launch).

So, it's very early in the process and I'm afraid I don't have much more to
share aside from pointing you to and
 It's possible Roche or Dow might have some more info they could share, but
that will also appear in the article, so not sure what your timeframe is?
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My general philosophy is to think through any experiment you want to do with
an eye to "life cycle management" - How can you safely bring in a chemical,
manage its storage, minimize exposures to the kids and school, and dispose
of it and all other associated wastes - and still have something fun and

Georjean Adams

On 9/29/06, Russ Phifer  wrote:
> It would be nice if there were such a list that everyone could agree on,
> but
> there certainly isn't one I can find.  I know Montana has a "suggested
> chemical inventory" (see
> ),
> but I personally see no need for high schools to have benzene, 1,1,1 TCE,
> 2,3,7,8 TCDD (what high school lab needs dioxin on their shelves??),
> caffeine, di-isopropyl ether (big peroxide former), gunpowder, hydrogen
> peroxide 30%, nitroglycerin, and about 30-40 other chemicals on their
> list!
> My recommendation is to look at each experiment from a "green" perspective
> to determine the hazards of the starting chemicals andif 1) less hazardous
> chemicals can be used, 2) the experiment byproducts will be regulated as a
> hazardous waste, and 3) if the purpose of the experiment is worth the
> risks
> posed by #1 and #2.  If a chemical isn't actively being used for specific
> experiments then it shouldn't be there.  Some of the chemicals on the
> Montana "suggested chemical inventory list", for example, are clearly
> dangerous and pose a substantial liability risk to the school.
> You might want to check out the EPA Schools Chemical Cleanout Campaign
> website -
> - it has links to a number of state programs on chemicals in schools.
> Russ Phifer
> WC Environmental, LLC
> PO Box 1718, 1085C Andrew Drive
> West Chester, PA  19380
> 610-696-9220x12/ fax 610-344-7519
> rphifer**At_Symbol_Here**
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of
> McCartney, Alan
> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:00 AM
> To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
> Subject: Chemical Lists
> Is there a "good" or "recommended list of chemicals for use in a high
> school
> chemistry lab, or alternatively, is there a "Not Recommended" list (or a
> do
> not use list)?
> Are there any general industry standards regarding suitability of
> chemicals
> for high school chemistry labs.
> Sincerely,
> Alan P. McCartney
> Alan P. McCartney, CSP, CHCM, EMT-P
> Senior Technical Specialist - Property
> Loss Prevention - Liberty Mutual Agency Markets
> 62 Maple Avenue
> Keene, New Hampshire 03431
> (603) 358-4560
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