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Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:43:36 -0700
Author: Gordon Miller
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Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 13:35:43 -0400
Reply-To: "George H. Wahl, Jr." <george_wahl**At_Symbol_Here**NCSU.EDU>
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From: "George H. Wahl, Jr." <george_wahl**At_Symbol_Here**NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Toluene? A peroxide former?!
Comments: To: Elizabeth Gregory
In-Reply-To: <002e01c7c264$42d12770$d0d71589**At_Symbol_Here**EGregoryLaptop>
Elizabeth,
I think the observed products should come as no surprise. If toluene
was allowed to sit in a less than perfectly sealed container for a
number of years, the three hydrogens on the Methyl might be expected
to get restless and do what comes naturally!
That is - form Resonance stabilized Radicals. Such an Intermediate
will also explain all three products you report, and also suggest
that the hydroperoxide was the first product of the reaction of air
( about 20% oxygen right? ) with toluene. If that compound then
decomposes by scission of the O-O bond, as peroxides are known to do,
the stage is set to pick up a H atom on oxygen and form Benzyl
alcohol. Where might that H come from? Well if it came from the
alpha-C-H bond of another benzyloxy radical, it would form benzaldehyde.
Organic Chemistry can be a help, as well as the pain that too many of
us remember from poorly taught undergraduate courses.
Best Wishes!
George Wahl
On Jul 9, 2007, at 4:03 PM, Elizabeth Gregory wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Our department finally opened up a 5 gallon metal drum of toluene
> earlier
> this summer. The drum is somewhere between 6 and 20 years old (you can
> imagine why I wanted to see it used up...).
>
> After a couple of days of "what the %**At_Symbol_Here** is this reaction by-
> product?!",
> we've finally figured out that the toluene itself has the following
> impurities: benzaldehyde, benzyl alcohol, and benzyl hydroperoxide
> (!!!). The
> total concentration of these impurities is about 240 mg/L of solution.
>
> Has anyone ever heard of toluene forming these products while it's
> left
> sitting around unopened? This is a new one, both to me and our
> resident
> organic chemist.
>
> Elizabeth Gregory
> Laboratory Manager
> Department of Chemistry
> SUNY College at Brockport
> Room 230 Smith Hall
> Brockport, NY 14420
> (585) 395-2210
> Fax: (585) 395-5805
> Email: egregory**At_Symbol_Here**brockport.edu
>
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