Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2007 09:45:52 +0100
Reply-To: Allan Astrup Jensen <aaj**At_Symbol_Here**FORCE.DK>
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From: Allan Astrup Jensen <aaj**At_Symbol_Here**FORCE.DK>
Subject: Re: Health & Safety of Materials
Comments: To: "Dr. Jay A. Young"
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Dr. Young is not right. Toxnet is a mixture of peer reviewed and not 
peer reviewed but relevant information and databases. It is a very 
important and reliable information source. Patty is one of many a useful 
classic publication in many editions - but not quite up to date!

Specifically, RTECS may be somewhat obsolete now but when the first 
paper version from NIOSH came out for more than 30 years ago, it was 
almost the only collective available information source on e.g. LD50's 
and EDs. It was e.g. much used at that time for background information 
by the EC Working group to classification of dangerous chemicals 

I visited and meet with the Editor: Herbert E. Christensen (Danish 
origin!) several times in the late 70s and early 80s. His intentions 
with this publication (and later a data registry for UNEP) was to 
provide all available information "untouched"; that was without 
peer-review and censorship but with references. It was the most 
scientific and unbiased way! 

Yours truly,

Allan Astrup Jensen

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-----Original Message-----
From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of 
Dr. Jay A. Young
Sent: 10. december 2007 22:14
To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Health & Safety of Materials


The problem with TOXNET is that the toxic information it cites is NOT 
reviewed, and there is therefore a lot of misinformation as a result.  I 

wouldn't rely on TOXNET any farther than I could throw this computer 
with my 
hands tied behind my back!

Jay Young
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lampe Hannasch, Kay" 
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Health & Safety of Materials

> Try TOXNET, which is supported by the National Library of Medicine and
> National Institutes of Health.  The HSDB (Hazardous Substance Data 
> had much of the same toxicity summary information that is in RTECS.
> Kay Lampe Hannasch
> Sr. SHE Manager
> "The opinions expressed here, are my own, not that of my employer."
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf 
> Robert Tylicki
> Sent: December 10, 2007 10:45 AM
> To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
> Subject: [DCHAS-L] Health & Safety of Materials
> I am trying to find another reliable source for health & safety
> information of materials besides RTECS.  This could be a database or a
> service provider.
> Thank you for any assistance,
> Robert
> Robert M. Tylicki
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