Date: Mon, 27 Apr 2009 18:14:21 -0400
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From: Carl Zipfel <czipfel**At_Symbol_Here**COMCAST.NET>
Subject: Re: FW: [DCHAS-L] Best Practices for Students in Industrial Labs
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From a liability and safety standpoint:

No children, or spouses, beyond the reception area.  An exception is made if
the facility has a lunch room accessible from the outside.

This applies, also, to spouses who work at the facility and are visiting
their spouse on another shift.


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Hadden, Susan [PRDUS]
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Subject: [DCHAS-L] FW: [DCHAS-L] Best Practices for Students in Industrial

Forgive me for revisiting this topic.

I am interested in learning how other INDUSTRIAL sites manage the issue of
visiting minors in labs. If anyone from an industrial environment would like
to share their programs (summary only is fine) or their challenges, I would
appreciate the info.
(Not intending to discriminate against academia but you're sort of designed
to handle this population.)

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Laurence Doemeny
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Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Best Practices for Students in Industrial Labs

Here is how NIH does it:

Here is their general web site:


and the link that has information on restrictions:


I would think that the institution where the student works would be required
to take that institution's safety training before being allowed to work in
the laboratory.

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Jay A. Young
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The ACS program, "Project Seed" specifically allows, and pays a small salary

to students who help out, and learn some chemistry, in real labs under the 
supervision of an experienced mentor.  The basic idea is two-fold, help 
deserving students earn a little money and perhaps recruit new minds into 
becoming candidates for the next Nobel in chemistry.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ralph Stuart" 
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 10:30 AM
Subject: [DCHAS-L] Best Practices for Students in Industrial Labs

>A DCHAS-L member who preferred to ask this question anonymously asked  me 
>to post this...
> - Ralph
> Our industrial laboratory has previously allowed high school students 
> (under age 18) to shadow researchers in the laboratory.  The parents  must

> sign a release form to allow emergency medical treatment and  disclose any

> prescription medications the student is currently  taking.  There is a 
> lengthy and serious safety presentation with the  students and their 
> mentors prior to entering the lab.  The students  are allowed to observe 
> low risk experiments, e.g., room temperature  reactions, pipeting non-BBP 
> materials into multi-well plates, use of  microscopes and surface analysis

> equipment and HPLC's, etc.  The  students are not allowed into high hazard

> areas such as hazardous drug  labs or to observe experiments that involve 
> pyrophoric reagents  (hydrides, etc.).  The mentor must accompany the 
> student in the  laboratory 100% of the time.
> We have had a recent request from management to allow a high school 
> student (< 18 years old) to actually conduct experiments in our  research 
> laboratory during the summer.  Do any industrial labs allow  high school 
> students to participate in a summer research project?   What are the 
> limitations?  Do you have any guidelines to share?
> We have considered having a local university allow the student to work  in

> their lab and our company sponsor the project.

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