Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 10:10:22 -0500
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From: Carolyn Sampson <Carolyn.Sampson**At_Symbol_Here**GENMILLS.COM>
Subject: Re: Help needed on activated water products
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A group at the University of Minnesota is researching this tech nology with respect to sanitation of food and food production equipment.  You might want to contact them for information. /researchgroups/diezfeirtagresearchgroup/research/

Carolyn Sampson, Ph.D.

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You know, this is one of those claims that always makes me chuckle a bit (in a sick sorta way…).  Now I’ll admit up f ront I have not looked at their site, so I will make no comment on the product itself.

It’s the “99.9%” claim that makes me laugh.  What is 0.1% of 1 BILLION bacteria?  It’s a million.  Can a million bacteria start an infection?  Yah, youbetcha. 

To me, this is like saying I can remove 99.9% of the cyanide in mine tailings.  The 0.1% left is still well above what’s needed to do harm, so what’s the point?  Unless you have a system that is killing 99.999%, I’m not sure you’re ahead by much, but that’s just my opinion.

Bradley K. Norwood, PhD

Laboratory Director

Arista Laboratories

1941 Reymet Road

Richmond, VA  23237

(804) 271-5572 ext. 307

(804) 641-4641 (cell)


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Subject: [DCHAS-L] Help needed on activated water products

Dear Group,

For years I have been hearing about the ionized water cleaners and have pre tty much dismissed them.  Clearly, you can make water temporarily a better solvent with electricity, but I can't imagine it being of much use against greasy materials for which water is just not a good solvent, activated or n ot.

Now, there is a new kid on the block called Activeion Cleaning Solutions ( and they are really cleaning up, to make a joke.  And they have a great presentation with Bill Nye the Science Guy as their spokeperson.  It's such a slick presentation, I want to buy one myself when I watch. 

They are also claiming 99.9% kill of MRSA and other microorganisms, and yet I can't see any EPA registration for the product on the site.  They even show it being used in hospitals.

I'm appealing you all for whatever wisdom you may have about this product.< br>
Monona Rossol, M.S., M.F.A.,
industrial hygienist
Arts, Crafts & Theater Safety, Inc.
Safety Officer,
United Scenic Artist's, Local USA829
International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employes (IATSE)
181 Thompson St., #23
New York NY 10012-2586     212/777-0062

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