Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2009 10:47:05 -0400
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Subject: 3 RE: [DCHAS-L] Wastewater testing

From: "Chrismarlowe" 
Date: June 24, 2009 10:29:20 AM EDT
Subject: RE: [DCHAS-L] Wastewater testing


The analytical cost for multi-metals analysis may seem high, but I  
usually find it a bargain.

If you need to meet the usual regulatory limits, you'll need a method,  
like AA, that determines analytes at a low detection limit. You  
probably don't intend to run samples often enough to acquire, equip,  
train, and operate such a device at a monthly cost lower than the lab  
charges you.

I suggest that you conduct a full-cost analysis before you buy  
anything. You may find that commercial labs are your best friend.

NOTE: I am a user like you, not a laboratory shill.

Stay healthy,

Chris Marlowe
42 Highlander Dr
Scotch Plains, NJ  07076
908 / 754 - 5160 (home)
732 / 539 - 8128 (cell)

From: "Lazarski, Peter M." 
Date: June 24, 2009 10:33:31 AM EDT
Subject: RE: [DCHAS-L] Wastewater testing


Your first step should be to contact your state environmental  
regulators to learn what, if any, certifications will be necessary for  
your laboratory to acquire. Are you monitoring solely for internal  
company use or will the results be used for discharge permit  
reporting? Will you be performing work just for your company or will  
you be soliciting additional work from other companies?

If you'll need to be certified, the regulators can provide a listing  
of which procedures they've deemed as suitable for your analytes. If  
this work is already being done for your company by a contractor, you  
could speak with the laboratory director and possibly visit their  

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From: "Mcavoy, Lance" 
Date: June 24, 2009 10:37:13 AM EDT
Subject: RE: [DCHAS-L] Wastewater testing

We have used EPA methods and Standard methods.  The question is what  
detection limits you need, what type of cost are you willing to pay,  
and how skilled is your analyst?  We have used Graphite Furnace AA,  
ICP-AES, and ICP-MS (currently what we are set-up for).  EPA methods  
are 200.9 (GFAA), 200.7 (ICP-AES), and 200.8 (ICP-MS).  I know that  
most state's require analysis by approved method listed in 40 CFR Part  
136.  This was updated in 2007 or 2008 and I know 200.7 and 200.8 are  
still in there. I'm not sure about SW846 methods.  The methods are  
available on line in PDF format.

Standard Methods may also be used and a copy of the methods may be  
purchased through WEF or AWWA.

Lance A. McAvoy,
Environmental Chemist
City of Fort Smith
Environmental Quality Analytical Laboratory

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