Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 09:55:10 -0800
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From: Gordon Kroemer <gkroeme**At_Symbol_Here**LINFIELD.EDU>
Subject: Re: Safety showers and eyewashes
In-Reply-To: <SNT128-W7DC62E1B65C11B40EA61AC46D0**At_Symbol_Here**phx.gbl>
OSHAs also presumes, "Not documented, not done&q uot;.

Gordon J. Kroemer, CSP, NRCC-CHO
Director, Office of Environment, Health & Safety
Linfield College
900 SE Baker Street, A468
McMinnville, OR 97128
503-883-2781 fax

On 10/01/10 17:13, "Alan Hall" <a halltoxic**At_Symbol_Here**MSN.COM> wrote:

Thanks to Peter Zavon for his kind words a nd I quite agree with his comments.  It is a tenant in Medicine that th e presumption is always:  "Not documented, not done".
Alan H. Hall, M.D.
> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:53:44 -0500
> From: pzavon**At_Symbol_Here**ROCHESTER.RR.COM
> Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Safety showers and eyewashes
> To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
> Alan Hall's response seems to cover this question admirably.
> I would merely add that if you are not shown documentation on the
> inspections, you should politely tell the facility manager that you ca nnot
> presume them to have been performed. Then report it as not inspected,< BR> > perhaps with a foot note that records of inspections were said to exis t but
> were not made available for review, despite your requests. It doesn't sound
> like you have a friend in the facility manager, so little or nothing t o
> loose in hanging him out a bit, especially if you warn him in advance.
> Peter Zavon, CIH
> Penfield, NY
> PZAVON**At_Symbol_Here**
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**]
> > On Behalf Of Jack Novodoff 1
> > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 2:15 PM
> > To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU
> > Subject: [DCHAS-L] Safety showers and eyewashes
> >
> > I am doing some safety inspections for a start up private
> > laboratory.
> > There is no documentation on the individual safety
> > eywash/showers indicating when they were last inspected. The
> > building facilitty manager insists he has the documantation
> > on his computer but has steadfastly refused to share this
> > information when a safety inspection is performed. Is there
> > any documentation that requires emergency eyewash/shower
> > stations to have tags indicating their last inspection?
> > Any information would be helpful. I suspect that the
> > inspections occur on a random basis, if at all. Thanks
> >
> > Jack Novodoff, PhD
> >

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