Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 07:19:32 -0600
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Another argument for why education should not be exempt from OSHA standards. And this coming from the state that calls virtually everything a carcinogen. There are better ways to cut costs than to endanger people - remember too that I have to retrain them in safety once the educators are done with them. Embedding a safety culture begins early, not when my organization hires them.

Don A. Long
Southwest Research Institute Laboratory
Pine Bluff Chemical Agent Disposal Facility
PO Box 20130
White Hall, AR  71612

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From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU]On Behalf Of Moorefield, Mubetcel
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2010 6:44 AM
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I am surprised to see there is even a discussion of whether to ask the students to wear gloves or not.  That is probably why even the chemists who graduate with PhD in chemistry have hard time following those simple safety rules when they get a job in the industry.
As teaching profession, I would expect you to teach my child how to be safe in a lab as well as how to set up a reaction.  It should be part of the teaching curriculum.  I am pretty sure you are teaching them not to pour hazardous chemicals down the drain so the environment doesn't get hurt.  Why would you question if it  is necessary to teach them not to hurt themselves?  Discussion of recovering the cost should be a separate issue.

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From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**] On Behalf Of Kennedy, Sheila
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 6:32 PM
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As the staff of the Chemistry & Biochemistry Teaching Labs, we have been asked to propose ideas for saving money, as budgets are only getting tighter over the next few years. One idea proposed is that we stop providing gloves ad lib. to students, but have them buy & bring their own. We currently supply either nitrile or PVC examination (thin, single-use) gloves in our labs.

Do you provide/require gloves for student labs?


Sheila M. Kennedy, CHO
Safety Coordinator
Chemistry & Biochemistry Teaching Laboratories
University of California, San Diego
(858) 534-0221

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