John, Back when I was a pharma safety person, we had dry chem.. extinguishing sys tems in our scale-up lab fume hoods. I know the company's new research labs in England had water suppression systems in all research lab fume hoods- b ut don't recall the rationale(it may be a requirement there). With our drychem systems I can recall two system activations - one a real f ire that tripped the system, and one a situation where high temperatures me lted the fusible link. In both cases the system appears to have operated as designed. The real fir e situation happened during a large scale chromatographic isolation where l arge volumes of solvent were in use. The drychem put the fire out immediate ly, got everyone's attention, and was a real bear to clean up. It did take a few days to recharge the system. I'm sure there are some downsides to dry chem, especially if you have hot e quipment and the possibility for re-ignition exists. Hope this helps. Kathy -----Original Message----- From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU] On Behalf Of Ro bert Mann Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 2:06 PM To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Sprinkler System in Wet Chemistry Research Labs Water sprinklers are not that good for flammable liquid fires. AFFF foam o r CO2 is better for flammable liquids Robert Mann Occupational Safety Coordinator Institute for Genomic Biology Room 1630 University of Illinois 1206 W. Gregory Drive Urbana, IL 61801 Office: 217-244-8346 Cell: 217-493-9651 -----Original Message----- From: DCHAS-L Discussion List [mailto:DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**list.uvm.edu] On Behalf Of John_Bristol**At_Symbol_Here**EISAI.COM Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 12:22 PM To: DCHAS-L**At_Symbol_Here**LIST.UVM.EDU Subject: Re: [DCHAS-L] Sprinkler System in Wet Chemistry Research Labs While on the topic of sprinkler systems, what is everyone's view on sprinkler systems installed inside a fume hood? This has been a topic that our insurer has batted around with us for years. They would like to recommend sprinklers be installed inside fume hoods where larger volumes of flammable solvents are used (such as floor-to-ceiling fume hoods in our scale-up labs and waste accumulation rooms). Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks, John John Bristol Director, Environmental Health and Safety Andover Site Operations Unit Eisai Inc. Four Corporate Drive Andover, MA 01810 From: "House, Katherine C."
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